Are we losing parenting skills?


The sign of a poor parent is when they come out with ;

“I want to give me bairns what I never had”
I don't use the phrase, but I am all for that if they mean providing a loving and caring home that enables a child to thrive. I base my parenting on that premise as I came from abusive home.

If they mean loading then up with crass designer gear to live vicariously through them, I agree
 
Pie Jnr will be 3 in April and we're currently on day 10 of potty training. Kept him off nursery for a couple of days so we had a 5 day run of it at home initially, then took it for there. Day 10 today and its the 3rd day with no accidents, really chuffed with how he's done.

Can't believe parents would live with the embarrassment of not training their kids before they start school.
The bairn sort of indicated when she was ready. We didn’t try too early as the kid’s brain has to get to a stage when it starts to recognise it wants to have a wee.
 
I don't use the phrase, but I am all for that if they mean providing a loving and caring home that enables a child to thrive. I base my parenting on that premise as I came from abusive home.

If they mean loading then up with crass designer gear to live vicariously through them, I agree
I’m talking about materialistic shite.Quad bikes,Gucci jackets shite like that.Turn their kids into spoilt little bastards.


I’m of the same though I’ve provided my kids with what I never had though in that respect.
 
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Ah, kids aren't what they used to be. Some children take a little longer to toilet train, some aren't ready and get pushed to do it which has an adverse impact. It's not as straightforward as lazy parent Vs proactive parent.
My friend had to pay a consultant privately as his child stopped pooing and they had to keep collecting him from school when he needed to go then spend 3 or 4 hours in the toilet with him. It took several months to correct and he is a child with no other issues whatsoever. He was fortunately able to afford that but I can only imagine what other parents might go through with this.
 
If trained professionals can't get a child reading after 3-4 year what chance has an untrained parent? Surely if a 7yo can't read to any standard there are some fundamental issues behind that?
Parents should be reading with the bairns at a very early age.Our kids would get a book sent home every Friday from nursery and early years of school.I would read it with them a couple of times,sign the comment book and send it back with them on a Monday morning.
They would also have books of their own that was of interest of them.Bob the Builder etc.

Parents are a massive part of that early learning
 
Parents should be reading with the bairns at a very early age.Our kids would get a book sent home every Friday from nursery and early years of school.I would read it with them a couple of times,sign the comment book and send it back with them on a Monday morning.
They would also have books of their own that was of interest of them.Bob the Builder etc.

Parents are a massive part of that early learning

I'm not doubting that and I have and still do the same but it doesn't take away from the point that if a 7yo can't read to any standard there are obviously some underlying issues involved and id teachers can't get kids reading parents have zero chance I'd doing it either
 
The bairn sort of indicated when she was ready. We didn’t try too early as the kid’s brain has to get to a stage when it starts to recognise it wants to have a wee.

No, neither did we. He's done it later than some of his nursery mates, but I think we've got off relatively easily because we waited.
 
I'm not doubting that and I have and still do the same but it doesn't take away from the point that if a 7yo can't read to any standard there are obviously some underlying issues involved and id teachers can't get kids reading parents have zero chance I'd doing it either
The school has target reading abilities by age. You’re correct, if a child isn’t able to read to some level by 7 y/o then the school have failed. As a governor I’d be kicking their arses over that.

But, to progress them and get them to a good standard you (as a parent) need to be reading to your child every day.
No, neither did we. He's done it later than some of his nursery mates, but I think we've got off relatively easily because we waited.
All the stuff we read backed up what Harry says, let them tell you when is the right time but encourage it along the way.

No two are the same though and they always say girls are easier at learning that stuff.
 
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How old are bairns before their parents start giving their age in years? :lol: It took me an embarrassing number of seconds to figure out her age there.
I posted in months as it was just to make a point really...she's been on this earth all of 3.5 years and she's so independent. The first time she used the toilet on her own we were wondering where she'd disappeared to so we shouted for her and it was "I'm in here and having a poo ....I'm struggling Dad it's not coming out" :lol:
 
I'm not doubting that and I have and still do the same but it doesn't take away from the point that if a 7yo can't read to any standard there are obviously some underlying issues involved and id teachers can't get kids reading parents have zero chance I'd doing it either
Both have failed the kid.
 
If trained professionals can't get a child reading after 3-4 year what chance has an untrained parent? Surely if a 7yo can't read to any standard there are some fundamental issues behind that?
I think we are talking at cross purposes. If a child is behind or not attaining a level expected then I would say that the factors come from the background, more often than not.

If the child cannot read one word then there is profound issue that should have been highlighted very early on and if the child is still in a class of 30 without the issue being flagged up, I will agree, it is the teachers who have failed.
 
I posted in months as it was just to make a point really...she's been on this earth all of 3.5 years and she's so independent. The first time she used the toilet on her own we were wondering where she'd disappeared to so we shouted for her and it was "I'm in here and having a poo ....I'm struggling Dad it's not coming out" :lol:
What did point did posting 3.5 years in months make?
 
I think we are talking at cross purposes. If a child is behind or not attaining a level expected then I would say that the factors come from the background, more often than not.

If the child cannot read one word then there is profound issue that should have been highlighted very early on and if the child is still in a class of 30 without the issue being flagged up, I will agree, it is the teachers who have failed.
I’ve got to also say that getting the right intervention for SEND children is an incredibly difficult task.
 
The reading question is an interesting one. In Finland, compulsory school starts at 7 and yet Finnish children go on to be better readers then English children who start at 4.
 
A teacher was telling me a while back that given parents shove their kids on tablets the whole time to keep them occupied, they have terrible communication and social interaction skills and dont know how to hold a pencil. The other problem was that parents would never take accountability for their children's behaviour and never accept criticism.
 
If a parent does no work with a child at home a school would still have a 7yo reading to a decent standard

School haven't got the resources to sit one on one with struggling children and teach basic reading and writing skills. I used to do parent volunteering in the primary school. I'd mainly spend my time doing reading or letter formation with the ones who were struggling.

It's true that some parents don't do any reading or other work with children before they start school. That's why schemes like BookStart exist. Children are given free books at early years appointments in the hope it sparks an interest in reading.
 
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