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Morse you havent got a clue what you are talking about have you......how about we flip this and the people in control in Qatar look at western societies like USA for example.......and they see mass shootings .......the Capitol building been raided by a insane , brainwashed mob wanting to hang their own Vice President.........the rapes and homicides ......the beating of blacks by law enforcement officers........the hatred of gays and anyone not born in USA.......the illegal war in Iraq where over 100,000 innocent civilians were killed etc etc.......do you think that they look upon this and think we in the West are the criminal onesYou imply that Qatar's regime act out of ignorance, that's not the case at all. People in control there, like all of the ME, are well educated, some in Oxford or Cambridge. The human rights record in ME countries is appalling, in Saudi they behead women for witchcraft, ffs!
Hateful, bigoted and obscenely wealthy 'men' are using Islam to brutally suppress their people and migrant workers, whom they consider worthless except to work like machines for them. If a few thousand die, they don't care. Plenty more disposable people are ready to take their place.
The people in power in the ME could make 'their' countries a free paradise for every one of their citizens. They choose to rule them with a medieval religious iron fist. They are utter scum.
That's silly, bless youWell given you threatened violence if I called you a mag I'd say your a little angry. I don't need to tell you anything about myself. Nor do I have to upload my qualifications. You obviously get your kicks from defending abhorrent nations. Not going to interact with you further unless its your nufc sportswashing thread, mag.
Well put albeit very politely done. Cringed at the title.Did not watch a single second of the tournament
Glad to hear England wont be the name on the stained trophy
Edit - to the OP - having a dig at people who are against massive human rights violations says more about you. Hope the result destroyed your weekend
Morse you havent got a clue what you are talking about have you......how about we flip this and the people in control in Qatar look at western societies like USA for example.......and they see mass shootings .......the Capitol building been raided by a insane , brainwashed mob wanting to hang their own Vice President.........the rapes and homicides ......the beating of blacks by law enforcement officers........the hatred of gays and anyone not born in USA.......the illegal war in Iraq where over 100,000 innocent civilians were killed etc etc.......do you think that they look upon this and think we in the West are the criminal ones
I genuinely believe Australia were robbed. I think it is always corrupt at the FIFA level and will continue to be but I can't stomach the 'spirt can bring about change' in repressive regimes. 1936 should have taught the world an important lesson.Still not seen a single match, the Yanks should have had the tournement but did not pay big enough bribes.
100% agree. There are some worrying accounts on here and have been since the Saudi takeover went through. A lot of attempts to normalise horrendous behaviour of backwards nations.Whataboutery at it's finest. By all means ignore the moral problems, no-one cares about that. But to compare the USA to Qatar is utterly stupid. One is one of the most free countries in the world albeit a few minor issues (the USA is the same size as the Middle East thereabouts) and one which has very little freedoms at all. You've literally nit picked the worst parts of it by an extreme minority and comparing it to a countries laws.
To just pick one of those in that list, gays in the USA - free to marry, free to express their sexuality, free to have sex. Gays in Qatar - no freedoms, illegal, conversation therapy and potential death penalty.
It's very bizarre why some people are obsessed with defending a corrupt country.
Its a game of football and thats it.....your the idiot......what a stupid person you are.
You make me laugh......I tell you what , how about you walk out of the Stadium of Light if we dont take the knee....pleased I dont hang around with you...you must be a barrel of laughs.
Morals???? What have the Qatarian people ever done to you....you got ur head stuck up your arse
1936, Argentina 78, Russia and the China Olympics. Its sad the way things have gone.I genuinely believe Australia were robbed. I think it is always corrupt at the FIFA level and will continue to be but I can't stomach the 'spirt can bring about change' in repressive regimes. 1936 should have taught the world an important lesson.
We're the British Really that Bad in Africa? Post #166You obviously get your kicks from defending abhorrent nations.
Qatar is misguided? I think it is 'a problem of the mind'. This is the 21st century and they are well into that century but deny social progress.Russia is a different kettle of fish and that should be obvious to absolutely anyone.
Qatar is a small Arabic backwater that was colonised through history because of its geo-stategic location, but its people were generally left alone to do as they please. All of a sudden they got independence and a small amount of oil wealth and started a gradual integration with the outside world. Russian has been the largest country in the world, with a huge empire and massive geopolitical interests.
Qatari human rights abuses are down to misguided and outdated views on the world which are slowly changing, albeit not fast enough, while Russia's are to serve their own interests. Qatar aren't a rogue state, they just haven't evolved.
Unfortunately, it is getting worse. People are in powerful positions and I have no idea how they get there. Olympic Committee, FIFA, UEFA, F1.1936, Argentina 78, Russia and the China Olympics. Its sad the way things have gone.
You think the USA isn't corrupt?Whataboutery at it's finest. By all means ignore the moral problems, no-one cares about that. But to compare the USA to Qatar is utterly stupid. One is one of the most free countries in the world albeit a few minor issues (the USA is the same size as the Middle East thereabouts) and one which has very little freedoms at all. You've literally nit picked the worst parts of it by an extreme minority and comparing it to a countries laws.
To just pick one of those in that list, gays in the USA - free to marry, free to express their sexuality, free to have sex. Gays in Qatar - no freedoms, illegal, conversation therapy and potential death penalty.
It's very bizarre why some people are obsessed with defending a corrupt country.
Sadly your correct. It's putting me off sport as the integrity Is starting to be called into question.Qatar is misguided? I think it is 'a problem of the mind'. This is the 21st century and they are well into that century but deny social progress.
Unfortunately, it is getting worse. People are in powerful positions and I have no idea how they get there. Olympic Committee, FIFA, UEFA, F1.
You think the USA isn't corrupt?![]()
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I'm looking forward to Monday night when I can argue over not having enough strikers as it should beTake a step back. Take a deep breath. It's over for England now. Is it worth arguing about tonight? Probably not as it will change no opinions. So, relax. Put the daggers away. Enjoy your Saturday evening instead of wasting time on pointless bullshit that will change nothing. Take care![]()
Misguided yes. They have a belief system that like almost every Muslim majority country in the world sees homosexuality as something that shouldn't be tolerated. At a guess I would say the western educated rulers wouldn't give a shit about homosexuality, but are terrified of an uprising should they go against religious leaders.Qatar is misguided? I think it is 'a problem of the mind'. This is the 21st century and they are well into that century but deny social progress.
Unfortunately, it is getting worse. People are in powerful positions and I have no idea how they get there. Olympic Committee, FIFA, UEFA, F1.
Spot on me marra. Ha'way the ladsI'm looking forward to Monday night when I can argue over not having enough strikers as it should be![]()