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I just see nowt from Moyes
He doesn't fill me with any confidence

Me neither, at present. But we can't overlook the fact players like Kone have been a disgrace (he has stopped playing it seems as he looks to force a move) and the club has had a shocking pre season, through no real fault of the managers. We were pretty garbage iirc under Allardyce until he had time to line up/sign players.... God I'm gutted how it all unfolded with Allardyce ffs.
 
Me neither, at present. But we can't overlook the fact players like Kone have been a disgrace (he has stopped playing it seems as he looks to force a move) and the club has had a shocking pre season, through no real fault of the managers. We were pretty garbage iirc under Allardyce until he had time to line up/sign players.... God I'm gutted how it all unfolded with Allardyce ffs.
We still spent £25m+ and it hasn't improved us one bit. In fact we're worse.

At least under Allarydce when we were struggling there were some promising signs.
 
What can I do but continue to support my team? Twisting about Sunderland isn't a new phenomenon believe it or not. I'll go to the club at dinner time and will hear the same old fellas saying what many others are. They've done it for years. There will also be someone trying to put a positive spin on it. As "for making up the numbers" I think we all have the right to see a team put out that can compete with Stoke.

Stop going. Its the only way anything will really be done about it IMO.

I'm sure Leeds and Newcastle fans think they have a right to be in the same division as Stoke. The fact is no one has any right to anything.
 
Me neither, at present. But we can't overlook the fact players like Kone have been a disgrace (he has stopped playing it seems as he looks to force a move) and the club has had a shocking pre season, through no real fault of the managers. We were pretty garbage iirc under Allardyce until he had time to line up/sign players.... God I'm gutted how it all unfolded with Allardyce ffs.
Having half the squad injured doesn't help. Blaming Moyes is easy to do, the fact is his hands are tied. Anyone looking at our bench yesterday would have struggled to see anyone who could make a positive impact.
 
I just see nowt from Moyes
He doesn't fill me with any confidence

if i'm being honest i'd have to agree that at this stage of the season i never expected things to be looking like this,but like i also said, what's the alternative,even Allardyce didn't have any kind of effect till after christmas,plus there's half a bloody first team out injured,it's not looking very clever but Moyes needs more than eight games
 
We still spent £25m+ and it hasn't improved us one bit. In fact we're worse.

At least under Allarydce when we were struggling there were some promising signs.

That isn't really a lot of money mate when you consider Rodwell cost ten.

The signings appear to have been rushed jobs, due to unforeseen circumstances leading to a bit of a panic to at least get a few through the door as the clock was ticking.
 
Stop going. Its the only way anything will really be done about it IMO.

I'm sure Leeds and Newcastle fans think they have a right to be in the same division as Stoke. The fact is no one has any right to anything.
That will never happen though. It's the nature of being a fan. Go through thick and thin or thin and thinner in our case. Voicing our opinions after the game is the only thing we can do.

That isn't really a lot of money mate when you consider Rodwell cost ten.

The signings appear to have been rushed jobs, due to unforeseen circumstances leading to a bit of a panic to at least get a few through the door as the clock was ticking.
It's a lot of money to waste though.
 
That will never happen though. It's the nature of being a fan. Go through thick and thin or thin and thinner in our case. Voicing our opinions after the game is the only thing we can do.


It's a lot of money to waste though.

It is. But as I've said, it was panic buying due to the Allardyce situation/timing. The alternative would have been not 'wasting it' and having even less bodies than now.

Then they've got you, and millions of others, where they want you.
 
Stop going. Its the only way anything will really be done about it IMO.

I'm sure Leeds and Newcastle fans think they have a right to be in the same division as Stoke. The fact is no one has any right to anything.
I honestly don't think staying away will achieve anything. Of course nobody has the right to anything, but I don't think it's too much to ask for a team to come out have a game plan and compete against a team who have been on par with us so far this season.
 
It is. But as I've said, it was panic buying due to the Allardyce situation/timing. The alternative would have been not 'wasting it' and having even less bodies than now.

Then they've got you, and millions of others, where they want you.
Sorry like but I don't buy that really panic buying. We're talking about a bloke who has been in the management game for years and who openly admitted he'd bee watching a lot of football while unemployed. He'll know players and have contacts.
 
Sorry like but I don't buy that really panic buying. We're talking about a bloke who has been in the management game for years and who openly admitted he'd bee watching a lot of football while unemployed. He'll know players and have contacts.

But until you are at a club you can't see strengths and weaknesses. He probably also didnt expect the club to offload one of our centre halves out of nowhere and for the other to spit the dummy and stop playing. Basically the defence in which we finally had some stability imploded. It was a nightmare scenario.

The two lads from man utd was clearly a "get bodies in" job IMO.
 
Sorry like but I don't buy that really panic buying. We're talking about a bloke who has been in the management game for years and who openly admitted he'd bee watching a lot of football while unemployed. He'll know players and have contacts.
I have to agree with that. McNair, Love and Januzaj would have all been known to him. He employed the bloke from Chelsea (forgot his name) and we signed Papy two days later. Manquillo and Ndong have obviously been recommended by someone we have in France. Moyes will have agreed to sign them, but I would imagine, like all manager's, he'll have listened to the advice of others.
 
Unless something happens like a flukey win soon I cant see how we'll get out of this.

The injuries dont help and everyone has already gone over at length how the BSA situation fucked up our pre season.

But it's the style of play,the mistakes,the players and managers body language and results so far that dont give me confidence.

Said before I wanted Moyes,didnt think anyone out of work was better suited but not impressed so far.

Would sacking him/resignation after 10 games be a good thing?

Who knows because at the moment it feels like the 19 point season and even a manager change wont stop the rot
 
Unless something happens like a flukey win soon I cant see how we'll get out of this.

The injuries dont help and everyone has already gone over at length how the BSA situation fucked up our pre season.

But it's the style of play,the mistakes,the players and managers body language and results so far that dont give me confidence.

Said before I wanted Moyes,didnt think anyone out of work was better suited but not impressed so far.

Would sacking him/resignation after 10 games be a good thing?

Who knows because at the moment it feels like the 19 point season and even a manager change wont stop the rot
The question people aren't asking is, who do we replace him with? Forget Allardyce and we won't pay compo or attract anyone who is in work. Anyone out of work with any kind of pedigree won't touch us. So we're down to the tracksuit will travel mobile, or a rookie looking for a break.
 
The question people aren't asking is, who do we replace him with? Forget Allardyce and we won't pay compo or attract anyone who is in work. Anyone out of work with any kind of pedigree won't touch us. So we're down to the tracksuit will travel mobile, or a rookie looking for a break.

No idea who could come in and save us,I really dont.
I dont think Moyes will see out the season if we dont stop losing.
O'Shea and Stockdale could be likely IF say by January we are fucked and 8 points adrift
 
The question people aren't asking is, who do we replace him with? Forget Allardyce and we won't pay compo or attract anyone who is in work. Anyone out of work with any kind of pedigree won't touch us. So we're down to the tracksuit will travel mobile, or a rookie looking for a break.

I don't see why we should forget Allardyce.
 
Sorry like but I don't buy that really panic buying. We're talking about a bloke who has been in the management game for years and who openly admitted he'd bee watching a lot of football while unemployed. He'll know players and have contacts.
The club would have all ready identified signings. The 3 Man utd lads penaar anichibe are without doubt Moyes signings its like Poyets all over again.
 
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