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You’ve drifted so far down your rant you can’t even recall my initial point if you don’t know why I’m including Martinez.

Spain have a much better team than Italy on the ball, hence they dominated the game. Not sure why that’s a surprise to you.

You’re just chatting shit though, so I’m out

Mate, you tried including Martinez because you added him onto the list of Low, Enrique, Southgate etc... who are poor appointments and teams should be appointing proven class managers like Mancini.

My point was that Low has proven he's class, and anyone saying he hasn't been a successful appointment must have brain damage.
To say Enrique isn't proven class is pretty stupid considering what he won at Barcelona (the only Barca manager since Pep to win the CL, but obviously it's so easy to win with Messi right :lol::lol:)
I never picked up on Martinez because I don't rate him, I think he's a poor manager by and large.

As for your point about Spain - so Mancini's tactical masterclass was to let Spain run rings around them and then beat them on penalties? It's different, i'll give him that, especially considering that Enrique is such a bad manager Mancini could have just picked him off I'm sure?
 
Mate, you tried including Martinez because you added him onto the list of Low, Enrique, Southgate etc... who are poor appointments and teams should be appointing proven class managers like Mancini.

My point was that Low has proven he's class, and anyone saying he hasn't been a successful appointment must have brain damage.
To say Enrique isn't proven class is pretty stupid considering what he won at Barcelona (the only Barca manager since Pep to win the CL, but obviously it's so easy to win with Messi right :lol::lol:)
I never picked up on Martinez because I don't rate him, I think he's a poor manager by and large.

As for your point about Spain - so Mancini's tactical masterclass was to let Spain run rings around them and then beat them on penalties? It's different, i'll give him that, especially considering that Enrique is such a bad manager Mancini could have just picked him off I'm sure?
Utter drivel. Get out into the real world and find out about how the Germans and Spanish feel about their appointments 😂😂😂😂
 
Aye, it's funny how we were lucky to avoid Germany and the other teams in the 'Group of Death'.

Then when we play Germany in the knock rounds they suddenly become a bunch of no hopers who we were lucky to play. :lol:

Well this is it from the "I've always said Southgate is shit" brigade.

Before the Germany game there was all the talk of how this Germany team would beat us and Southgate would be too negative, and we'd lose because he's lost against every decent team he's faced etc......

Then we won and it's suddenly "well they're shit anyway".

It's *almost* like no matter what he does, people just won't admit they were wrong.
Utter drivel. Get out into the real world and find out about how the Germans and Spanish feel about their appointments 😂😂😂😂

Mate you haven't refuted a single point I've made, you're just making baseless, unrelated statements to keep shifting the debate.

If you're unable to answer my points, fair enough. But just admit it.
 
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Well this is it from the "I've always said Southgate is shit" brigade.

Before the Germany game there was all the talk of how this Germany team would beat us and Southgate would be too negative, and we'd lose because he's lost against every decent team he's faced etc......

Then we won and it's suddenly "well they're shit anyway".

It's *almost* like no matter what he does, people just won't admit they were wrong.


Mate you haven't refuted a single point I've made, you're just making baseless, unrelated statements to keep shifting the debate.

If you're unable to answer my points, fair enough. But just admit it.
😂😂😂😂

Utter moron
 
France got knocked out by Switzerland mate. Those 'kind' draws don't always help do they?

We didn't have the most difficult draw in the world, but we fell into that half of the draw because we won a group consisting of the WC Finalists, and another QF from this tournament. We then had to play a team from the 'group of death' in the next round, so it wasn't like Germany in 2002.
All about opinions I suppose.
In beating Ukraine and Denmark we weren’t exactly outsmarting giants of European football.

Ultimately it’s a similar tale of disappointment and what might have been.

As ever … it might be different next time …
 
All about opinions I suppose.
In beating Ukraine and Denmark we weren’t exactly outsmarting giants of European football.

Ultimately it’s a similar tale of disappointment and what might have been.

As ever … it might be different next time …

No.....but we also had to play Croatia (a World Cup Finalist!) and Germany as well.
Italy had a more difficult run from the quarters (although they had a very easy ride up until then) but ours wasn't the cakewalk many like to paint it as.
 
Well this is it from the "I've always said Southgate is shit" brigade.

Before the Germany game there was all the talk of how this Germany team would beat us and Southgate would be too negative, and we'd lose because he's lost against every decent team he's faced etc......

Then we won and it's suddenly "well they're shit anyway".

It's *almost* like no matter what he does, people just won't admit they were wrong.


Mate you haven't refuted a single point I've made, you're just making baseless, unrelated statements to keep shifting the debate.

If you're unable to answer my points, fair enough. But just admit it.
Read some of the professional players comments this morning in particular van der vart Southgates holding us back man
All about opinions I suppose.
In beating Ukraine and Denmark we weren’t exactly outsmarting giants of European football.

Ultimately it’s a similar tale of disappointment and what might have been.

As ever … it might be different next time …
We only beat 2 teams over 90 mins !
 
Read some of the professional players comments this morning in particular van der vart Southgates holding us back man

:lol:

Van Der Vaart? He’s a rent-a-quote, a Dutch Adrian Durham or Chris Sutton. Controversial “hot takes” for the interest.

GL to him, it’s a good career, but I’ll not take his analysis seriously thanks.
Read some of the professional players comments this morning in particular van der vart Southgates holding us back man

We only beat 2 teams over 90 mins !

Did we? Did the Croatia and Czech games not count like? f***ing UEFA, taking games off our record again!
 
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Van Der Vaart? He’s a rent-a-quote, a Dutch Adrian Durham or Chris Sutton. Controversial “hot takes” for the interest.

GL to him, it’s a good career, but I’ll not take his analysis seriously thanks.
And we are meant to take yours seriously over him
 
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Van Der Vaart? He’s a rent-a-quote, a Dutch Adrian Durham or Chris Sutton. Controversial “hot takes” for the interest.

GL to him, it’s a good career, but I’ll not take his analysis seriously thanks.


Did we? Did the Croatia and Czech games not count like? f***ing UEFA, taking games off our record again!

Btw, nobody won more games in 90 minutes that we did this tournament. Us, Belgium and Italy all won 4 games in 90 minutes.
And we are meant to take yours seriously over him

Eh? :lol:
 
I think you will actually struggle to find a ex player that says Southgate done well and it’s all down to him it’s criminal the teams he was putting out with the attacking talent we have
 
I value van der Varts opinion higher than yours

Well, I value Gary Neville’s opinion higher than yours and he rates Southgate :lol:

What are we doing here mate, exactly?
I think you will actually struggle to find a ex player that says Southgate done well and it’s all down to him it’s criminal the teams he was putting out with the attacking talent we have

Have…..have you been living in a box for the last week mate?
I think you will actually struggle to find a ex player that says Southgate done well and it’s all down to him it’s criminal the teams he was putting out with the attacking talent we have



 
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