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We got promoted and had a good transfer window because they had absolutely nothing to do with it and made no decisions. First time of asking anarl.
They were our owners with a greater share ownership than KDL and you are saying Donald and Methven had no say or expressed any opinion whatsoever regarding the last transfer window?
 
They somehow managed to get the club for 1 reason only hoping to get back to the championship first time and make a profit when selling

Both are utter *****
 
They were our owners with a greater share ownership than KDL and you are saying Donald and Methven had no say or expressed any opinion whatsoever regarding the last transfer window?
He has control. And no they havnt.

Everything that has been done goes against anything they have. And they are too clueless to do what kld has
 
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They were our owners with a greater share ownership than KDL and you are saying Donald and Methven had no say or expressed any opinion whatsoever regarding the last transfer window?
I'm sure he did, and I'm sure he is right.
 
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They tried
Apparently it was to make a quick buck yet no one wanted us
The Parachute payment was given to the club They owned, if they paid bills with it so what it was theirs
The club was an expensive folly under Short

90 minutes away from promotion when J Ross bottled it
Hindsight is wonderful
The new gaffa was being led to the gallows two month ago ....
 
Weren’t that bad at all?

-Got the club sustaining itself after was haemorrhaging it’s way to liquidation.
-Got rid of the problem staff and players
-Eventually got us promotion after a few unlucky misses

I’m not saying they were great and think their time is up now as we have moved up to the championship just saying that I never understood what was meant to be so bad about them. For me the Short reign was far worse and could have easily liquidated the club
No....end of thread...
 
They were our owners with a greater share ownership than KDL and you are saying Donald and Methven had no say or expressed any opinion whatsoever regarding the last transfer window?
On a technicality, the chuckle brothers probably expressed opinions, but KLD is savvy enough to take their crass decisions and opinions with a massive dose of salt.
Up to KLD's arrival they had made a public show of running the club using the club's and Sartori's money.
They only sold shares to KLD when he demanded total control on decision making, which they had to agree to as it was the only way they could get extra funding into the club as they were unable and/or unwilling (probably both) to inject cash to keep the still sinking ship afloat.

As to Sartori, he probably agreed to back his chuckle brother mates but has not really got involved and had he got his way he would now be living in Uruguay as their president. He clearly realised the two dafties were not making good on his investment and was probably as relieved as the dynamic duo when they came up with their KLD deal. Indeed, he probably brokered that deal because it was successful, unlike most things the chuckle brothers attempted. Sartori seems to be happy continuing as a largely sleeping patner so all in all KLD has the control he asked for.
 
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Is this the same chancer who managed to buy the club with its own money and the PR bloke who insults his own “public”?
 
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He has control. And no they havnt.

Everything that has been done goes against anything they have. And they are too clueless to do what kld has
You know so much!
6/10
They tried
Apparently it was to make a quick buck yet no one wanted us
The Parachute payment was given to the club They owned, if they paid bills with it so what it was theirs
The club was an expensive folly under Short

90 minutes away from promotion when J Ross bottled it
Hindsight is wonderful
The new gaffa was being led to the gallows two month ago ....
Exactly!
 
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Is this the same chancer who managed to buy the club with its own money and the PR bloke who insults his own “public”?
Brilliant business move really
Like buying a hotel for 50k, you only have half up front but know they have a 25k wedding booked . If they'd had the 50k the windfall is still theirs
Same buying a kip with tenants , you get a mortgage and it pays it for you
Free house
 
Weren’t that bad at all?

-Got the club sustaining itself after was haemorrhaging it’s way to liquidation.
-Got rid of the problem staff and players
-Eventually got us promotion after a few unlucky misses

I’m not saying they were great and think their time is up now as we have moved up to the championship just saying that I never understood what was meant to be so bad about them. For me the Short reign was far worse and could have easily liquidated the club

Fabulous. Literally.

What a superb example of how to re-write history.

You are actually serious, right?
 
I think that if everything that has happened with them happened in a shorter timeframe then it wouldn't have felt so bad.

It would then have been the case of taking the club on at its lowest ebb of being a complete wreck, stabilising it while providing a very healthy playing budget, finding new investors/chairman who got us promoted, then they left.

If all that happened in 2 or 3 years then it wouldn't have seemed so drawn out and painful.
 
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If we’d been promoted in their first season and they’d sold us in at a profit, I wouldn’t have begrudged them making a few quid and moving on.

Their gamble didn’t pay off and they subsequently ran the club into the ground due to their lack of funds and absolute incompetence.

I think Donald is probably a decent bloke, hapless but decent. Massively out of his league with SAFC. Methven is just a horrible piece of shit, he’s the absolute opposite of what we need at the club
 
Brilliant business move really
Like buying a hotel for 50k, you only have half up front but know they have a 25k wedding booked . If they'd had the 50k the windfall is still theirs
Same buying a kip with tenants , you get a mortgage and it pays it for you
Free house
A clever way. The same as paying £25k deposits on four houses instead of buying one outright for £100k then charging rents for each of them to repay the mortgages.

It should be remembered, of course, that whatever decision you take in business there are always risks which, in the case of a failing SAFC business, Donald and co. took.
 
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A clever way. The same as paying £25k deposits on four houses instead of buying one outright for £100k then charging rents for each of them to repay the mortgages.
Indeed ,he bought something that generates money ( it also costs a lot to run )
He did the numbers and went for it
Short was the opposite ,he had money in abundance and look how that turned out yet it's all Donalds fault
 
Christ. It was purely voluntary, everyone who was there wanted to be there, it was good to have some craic with fellow supporters and feel involved in freshening up the place. Food and drink was laid on after. Hardly a North Korean Internment Camp for cheap Labour
It was also not their idea it was a fans initiative that worked very well!in no way do they deserve any credit or criticism for the changing of the seats.
 
Weren’t that bad at all?

-Got the club sustaining itself after was haemorrhaging it’s way to liquidation.
-Got rid of the problem staff and players
-Eventually got us promotion after a few unlucky misses

I’m not saying they were great and think their time is up now as we have moved up to the championship just saying that I never understood what was meant to be so bad about them. For me the Short reign was far worse and could have easily liquidated the club
At what point did the get us promoted.
They didn't stabilise the club, they got rid of everything that they could including young talent
The club was loosing 1M a month,
If KLD hadn't come in when he did our football club .
They came in thought they could cut costs and get the club promoted in the first season then sell and make a profit.
They failed and could have completely ruined our club so no they didn't do ok.
I can't think of one single positive they brought to the club
 
Short may have written off the debt at the time but when they took over they inherited all sorts of a mess. In the main, they tackled those issues and made us something where new investors were interested in.

Their biggest mistake was winding people up and then letting them down. Donald's a generally nice guy who was out of his depth as the main man - Methven was (ironically) a PR disaster.

They deserve credit for their work behind the scenes. In terms of footballing activity, they fell way short.
 
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