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Good business strategy though there was free labour who enjoyed feeling involved. I don’t understand this attitude that the club saving money is a bad thing why would we want the club paying a fortune for things they don’t need to pay for
Some people just can’t see anything positively.
 
Leaving the club in a healthier state than when they bought it all of which is absolutely fuck all to do with either of them.
Except they were, and currently still are, owners. I must say I find it a bit tedious some supporters putting every bad decision at their door and every good decision made outside their capacity or influence 😳.
 
Weren’t that bad at all?

-Got the club sustaining itself after was haemorrhaging it’s way to liquidation.
-Got rid of the problem staff and players
-Eventually got us promotion after a few unlucky misses

I’m not saying they were great and think their time is up now as we have moved up to the championship just saying that I never understood what was meant to be so bad about them. For me the Short reign was far worse and could have easily liquidated the club
Weren’t? What have I missed?
 
Have we had the 57 billion we were due from taking the physio to court?

Remember not paying £90 quid for a hotel room for that striker and how Donald was not going to give an agent a penny :lol: He then gave 4 million of the clubs money to Wigan for that plank Grigg.

Plenty on here lapped it up.
To be fair it was no where near 4,000,000
 
Weren’t that bad at all?

-Got the club sustaining itself after was haemorrhaging it’s way to liquidation.
-Got rid of the problem staff and players
-Eventually got us promotion after a few unlucky misses

I’m not saying they were great and think their time is up now as we have moved up to the championship just saying that I never understood what was meant to be so bad about them. For me the Short reign was far worse and could have easily liquidated the club
Nope
 
Weren’t that bad at all?

-Got the club sustaining itself after was haemorrhaging it’s way to liquidation.
-Got rid of the problem staff and players
-Eventually got us promotion after a few unlucky misses

I’m not saying they were great and think their time is up now as we have moved up to the championship just saying that I never understood what was meant to be so bad about them. For me the Short reign was far worse and could have easily liquidated the club
Jesus 🙈. Do you still believe in Santa as well?
 
Except they were, and currently still are, owners. I must say I find it a bit tedious some supporters putting every bad decision at their door and every good decision made outside their capacity or influence 😳.
The tedious part for me is the mob make a decision and then everything else has to work around to fit that narrative. I don't think they were great owners but I also don't think they're anywhere near as bad as people make out. Look how many times either "Southerners" or "tories" are mentioned in the criticisms of Madrox. I hate to break it to people but an extremely high majority of people wealthy enough to own a club will fall in to the conservative category.

Another good example of the above mob mentality is Kevin Ball imo. No disputing a lovely bloke and a good servant as a player but he was not good in the capacities he had at the club after being a player. However as the shouty mob decided they loved him he can literally do no wrong in their eyes.
 
The tedious part for me is the mob make a decision and then everything else has to work around to fit that narrative. I don't think they were great owners but I also don't think they're anywhere near as bad as people make out. Look how many times either "Southerners" or "tories" are mentioned in the criticisms of Madrox. I hate to break it to people but an extremely high majority of people wealthy enough to own a club will fall in to the conservative category.

Another good example of the above mob mentality is Kevin Ball imo. No disputing a lovely bloke and a good servant as a player but he was not good in the capacities he had at the club after being a player. However as the shouty mob decided they loved him he can literally do no wrong in their eyes.
You know I rather think most of our supporters are much the same everywhere. We are not that interested in who sits on the board, what percentage of shares are owned by whom. We just want success for the team however that is achieved and regardless of the many bad buys we may have gone through to get it. Only when we are struggling do the keyboard warriors come out en masse to complain (not the regulars).
 
Not many can hand on heart say they weren’t a little bit impressed at their initial tenure. They got a lot of praise for galvanising the club after our almighty fall from grace.

However after they failed to gain promotion first time of asking which they would have gambled on their shortcomings were exposed, they were cagey over finances and they lost the trust of most supporters.

I don’t hate them, they gave it a go but should have come clean that they gambled on promotion to make a quick buck and then sold up as soon as they could. Donald got upset about being called a chancer but really that is precisely what they were. They were 90mins from being heroes if we had beaten Charlton but instead they will leave the club as failures and liars.
Very well presented mate.
 
I don't think they'll be appreciated the way they should. As was said at the time, if they hadn't come in we'd probably would have gone bust. They steadied the ship, had good intentions, but didn't have the experience at the level we were. Yes they took money out of us, but if they hadn't taken the gamble we may have been playing Gateshead next year. No one else had shown interest in us because how dire our finances were
 
Weren’t that bad at all?

-Got the club sustaining itself after was haemorrhaging it’s way to liquidation.
-Got rid of the problem staff and players
-Eventually got us promotion after a few unlucky misses

I’m not saying they were great and think their time is up now as we have moved up to the championship just saying that I never understood what was meant to be so bad about them. For me the Short reign was far worse and could have easily liquidated the club
Get many bites with this bait ?
 
A couple of egotistical chancers, out of their depth, who were after a quick buck and were happy to insult the fans. Bye.
 
How do you know?
The 4million was made up of add ons, including how many games he played, promotion in the first season and how many goals he scored.
Donald tweeted at the time
I hope it gets to £4M as that would mean we are playing football in the Premier League."
 
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The 4million was made up of add ons, including how many games he played, promotion in the first season and how many goals he scored.
Donald tweeted at the time
I hope it gets to £4M as that would mean we are playing football in the Premier League."
Ah Donald tweeted it. In that case, based on his exemplary history of being straight with the supporters, starting from his first press conference, I have absolutely no doubt that it was factually correct.
 
I don't think they'll be appreciated the way they should. As was said at the time, if they hadn't come in we'd probably would have gone bust. They steadied the ship, had good intentions, but didn't have the experience at the level we were. Yes they took money out of us, but if they hadn't taken the gamble we may have been playing Gateshead next year. No one else had shown interest in us because how dire our finances were
They bought a club they couldn't afford. Good intentions!!!!!!!!
 
Posted this over on 606 but seems right to post here too -

I think the pair of them miscalculated a few things about owning this club.
They didn't fully appreciate the scale of the rebuild or committed/had the relevant levels of finance to do it.
They underestimated the passion of the fans and the patience to 'become sustainable in League One' - we never will be a League One sized club.
They got carried away/purposefully misled fans on a number of things and then didn't like the backlash when found out.
They overestimated their own ability to understand SAFC, as well as overestimating their own football knowledge. Appointing Phil Parkinson ffs.
Overall they obviously intended to get it done in season one but when Jack Ross ballsed up their subsequent reactions to it showed us all how out of their depth they were. A really frustrating time to support the club but hopefully nothing more than an unpleasant memory from here on in.
Teriffic post this.
Naive beyind belief is all I would add.
 
Ah Donald tweeted it. In that case, based on his exemplary history of being straight with the supporters, starting from his first press conference, I have absolutely no doubt that it was factually correct.
Why pick out the tweet. Why not read the rest of the post. The facts are there to be found.
 
I don't think they'll be appreciated the way they should. As was said at the time, if they hadn't come in we'd probably would have gone bust. They steadied the ship, had good intentions, but didn't have the experience at the level we were. Yes they took money out of us, but if they hadn't taken the gamble we may have been playing Gateshead next year. No one else had shown interest in us because how dire our finances were
There were others showing interest in us. The financial situation was a challenge but Short was writing a shit load off and we had two parachute payments to come in. For that reason we were probably a fairly appealing proposition given everyone expected us to go straight back up. Short himself said that he chose to sell to Donald and Methven ahead of others. Whether they'd have been any better is anyones guess but it's not correct to say no one else wanted us. We also wouldn't have gone bust. Short wanted out but he'd always committed to paying what was needed to service debts etc. They bought us when they couldn't afford us, did so by using our parachute payment and then oversaw the least successful period in our history, cutting the club to the bone, whilst trying to flog us for profit every step of the way (even if it meant selling to someone as dodgy as Campbell). That's without even mentioning them f***ing up the FPP deal (which was a thing, and which wasn't like MSD) and Methven slagging off the fan base at every opportunity. They'll be remembered exactly as they deserve to be.
 
Except they were, and currently still are, owners. I must say I find it a bit tedious some supporters putting every bad decision at their door and every good decision made outside their capacity or influence 😳.
We got promoted and had a good transfer window because they had absolutely nothing to do with it and made no decisions. First time of asking anarl.
 
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