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GiantHogweed said:
You forgot one descriptor that can't be ignored...

Superior.

He comes off that he's above this job, the club and his station and that he's doing us a big solid by even being here.

After the shower of shit he's overseen this season, the arrogance boils the piss... Like he has no idea his managerial career is on life support.
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Good point. He's finished at this level, Sunderland gave him a last chance to prove he still has it and he treats the club as he's Mourinho in his prime doing a favour to a small club instead of battling for the UCL trophy.
 
Forty said:
Our manager has managed to blow 30 million on 13 players. Not one of them an improvement on what we had. Managed to get us relegated with 4 games remaining of the season. Managed to achieve the worst premier league start in History. Managed not win a game in 8 not score a goal in 7.
Throw the towel in after 2 games. After 19 games with us bottom of the league turn round and say it was exactly where he expected us to be.
Honest Dave sits in our History alongside Wilkinson and Mcmenemy.
We certainly would'nt be in this position if big sam was still here. But thats Hodgsons Fault the useless twat.
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Marco Silva took over on the 5th Jan and has 20pts from 17 games with Hull. Paul Clement took over Swansea the day before has 17pts from 17 games. Craig Shakespeare has 20pts from 10 games. Moyes has 21pts from 32 games. That's embarrassing.
 
dangermows said:
Short is hopeless marra.
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i don't know, i honestly don't know.

he has presided over some catastrophic years for us certainly - yet so many of those decisions looked for all the world like the right decisions at the time. i can't imagine how we've racked up such crippling debts, but if you think it is actually only around 15m per year of transfer spending that has gone down the toilet, literally.

a catalogue of errors really, short is at the top, some of the people he put in place were awful, but some really good people he put in place also did an awful job. and the allardyce carry on, well that was just farcical. although he was not exactly happy during the off season either, by then it seemed like our financial hands were tied.

fuck knows really
 
Can't stand Moyes but BSA would have walked at the first sniff of a better job with money to spend. He also wouldn't have done much better with the injuries.

What he would've done is keep everyone happier without the digs. He would've said "we" and "us" when talking about the club and he wouldn't have said we were down on day one.

He also wouldn't have signed the dogshit that Moyes has.
 
Forty said:
Our manager has managed to blow 30 million on 13 players. Not one of them an improvement on what we had. Managed to get us relegated with 4 games remaining of the season. Managed to achieve the worst premier league start in History. Managed not win a game in 8 not score a goal in 7.
Throw the towel in after 2 games. After 19 games with us bottom of the league turn round and say it was exactly where he expected us to be.
Honest Dave sits in our History alongside Wilkinson and Mcmenemy.
We certainly would'nt be in this position if big sam was still here. But thats Hodgsons Fault the useless twat.
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Correct.
 
Lord Alfred said:
As an obvious comparison.... Allardyce inherited a team which had the worst points per game ratio in all four divisions during 2016 when he took over from Pardew. Moyes on the other hand inherited a team with top half form over the second half of the preceding season.

I fully agree that Palace have some cracking players BUT they weren't performing.....our players are far better than 21 points but we have a "Pardew" situation here whereby there's a massive disconnect between manager and players.
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I think we have had the second worst collection of players available to us this year if you factor in the long term injuries. Moyes has still massively underachieved but it would have took fantastic management to get 40 points out of that shower of shite IMO.
 
Fetch Fletch said:
He wouldn't have stayed man.
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Disagree you have no way of knowing that. But it's a bit of a pointless argument anyhow would he have stayed would he have gone.
The only issue we have is, we have a donkey in charge with sloppy sholders, who is blaming everybody but himself, he is already getting his excuses in for next season. Honest Dave Mr Stability
 
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Black Cat Gypsy said:
Marco Silva took over on the 5th Jan and has 20pts from 17 games with Hull. Paul Clement took over Swansea the day before has 17pts from 17 games. Craig Shakespeare has 20pts from 10 games. Moyes has 21pts from 32 games. That's embarrassing.
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Indeed.

And the people who absolve Moyes of all blame seem to forget that Hull could barely put a 5-a-side team together back in August.
 
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