Angela Lowes gone


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High Paid Woman - bad, done a shit job, pleased she’s gone
Low Paid Bloke - hard done too, ridiculous decision, should be ashamed they let him go

I'd agree on the 'High Paid' vs 'Low Paid' comparison but no idea at all where you believe gender has come into this discussion.
 
Unsurprised. Treuer, as a proper CFO, will have seen through her in minutes. I'm sure she's a competent technician, but that's not the primary role of an FD. An FD has to be able to tell general management when their proposals won't work; the main reason accountants are unpopular is our tendency to raise inconvenient truths. All I'll say is that the transfer policies from Keane onwards should have been closely questioned over how the costs were ever supposed to be recovered. As far as I can see, managers were simply given carte blanche to overpay for players with no resale value instead.
Never heard of the women, but will bow to your knowledge in these matters GOM. The new regime has obviously had a look as you say and said ''nah not for me''. I am sure she will have left with a decent severance package though.
 
Nothing wrong with spending money, so long as you have a plan for getting it back. The problem is that the extra prize money for going up two or three places won't cover the cost. You also need a plan for getting money in. Our old friend zero net spend. Throwing money on overpaying for older players with no resale value isn't speculation - it's stupidity.
Correct. ES saw the price of Bruce’s fluky tenth finish and decided it wasn’t worth it. SAFC was then expected to start wiping its own face...........
Not long before Defoe came, there was somebody at the club who would not sanction a deal for another striker because we already had four, therefore it was assumed we didn't need another.

I'm not saying it was her, of course not. But that was the thinking at the club.
Aye. We had four who all basically played the same role which was madness. Fletcher, Graham, Wickam and some other ineffective line leader type... shambles.
We had a board of directors with zero interest in the game of football. It was a source of income to them and nothing more. Zero interest or understanding of the world they were in.

Imagine being any one of the number of managers we had working under that.
I’ve mentioned this on here a few times: How many games of football had they attended before getting jobs in football.
 
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I dinnar, I could be wrong, but whether it's streamlined or not football isn't a straight forward business, and it's more than a game of numbers. I know you value sustainability and cutting your cloth accordingly, but sometimes you need to speculate. Poyet's touched on this before, but we've been left short because of the bean counters at the club not sanctioning deals. We've chucked bad money after money, when we could have pushed the boat out here and there to bring in some real value. Pay peanuts - get monkeys. Get relegated.
Spending money was never our problem in our premier league days. It was absolutely abysmal player trading.

Gordon, Fletcher, Johnson, Altidore, Dijilobodji, N'Dong, Alverez- probably about £70 million there in fees alone for pretty much zero recouped. There will be others that's just quick off top of head.
It's a balancing act. It's difficult to balance. If you get a couple of players now n that what are worth something to the bigger boys it helps. Look at Leicester - Mahrez, Kante, Drinkwater. Leicester however have the muscle in reserve as well.

Nobody wants the indignity of being a selling club, but being a selling club can keep clubs alive.

I often wonder about the loan system. What if it didn't exist. What if these young players who need to go out and develop did so under contract at lower level clubs. What if the big clubs then actually had to pay these lower level clubs for said talent?

Instead you have small time clubs with scarce a tuppence ha'penny to their name, paying loan fees to big clubs, paying the player's wages, and the frig all in return when that player heads back to his parent club and a Premier League career. Parent club still doesn't want them? Flogs 'em at twice/thrice/four times the value of what they were before the loan. It's a joke.
The loan system is fundamentally broken and favours the rich teams to get richer. It's awful. We would have probably had Jonny Evans, Danny Welbeck and Danny Rose as permanent signings without it. All guesswork I grant you
 
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Correct. ES saw the price of Bruce’s fluky tenth finish and decided it wasn’t worth it. SAFC was then expected to start wiping its own face...........

Aye. We had four who all basically played the same role which was madness. Fletcher, Graham, Wickam and some other ineffective line leader type... shambles.

I’ve mentioned this on here a few times: How many games of football had they attended before getting jobs in football.
Altidore. We didn't need another striker because we had Altidore.
Spending money was never our problem in our premier league days. It was absolutely abysmal player trading.

Gordon, Fletcher, Johnson, Altidore, Dijilobodji, N'Dong, Alverez- probably about £70 million there in fees alone for pretty much zero recouped. There will be others that's just quick off top of head.

The loan system is fundamentally broken and favours the rich teams to get richer. It's awful. We would have probably had Jonny Evans, Danny Welbeck and Danny Rose as permanent signings without it. All guesswork I grant you
We did spend money, but we spent it badly, and at times when there were better options.
 
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Spending money was never our problem in our premier league days. It was absolutely abysmal player trading.

Gordon, Fletcher, Johnson, Altidore, Dijilobodji, N'Dong, Alverez- probably about £70 million there in fees alone for pretty much zero recouped. There will be others that's just quick off top of head.

The loan system is fundamentally broken and favours the rich teams to get richer. It's awful. We would have probably had Jonny Evans, Danny Welbeck and Danny Rose as permanent signings without it. All guesswork I grant you

Rodwell to add to your list and probably the most expensive who gave nothing back performance wise or future sale.

Agree on the loan system - it’s a disgrace although the one that would have worked out permanently was Mvilla but the incompetents thought Ndong a better option incredibly. Someone made money out of that imo.
 
That’s him. Thanks for reminding me.....
:lol: Sorry.
Aye, I've long thought that the loan system needs an overhaul. I don't mind big clubs having kids coming through. I don't mind them sending some on loan to gain experience. What I do mind is when these clubs actually have hundreds of kids there, when they're loaning 40 odd players out every season. That's not a youth system, it's farming. Hoovering up all the talent, happy that 95% will become nowt, because they know they'll massively cash in on the 5% that make it. Kids are going to sign for Chelsea or man united if they're in for them, but I can't help but think in many cases it mustn't help their development, and certainly doesn't help the football pyramid
I've been saying it for years marra. It's an absolute swizz.
Thoughts on this @Grumpy Old Man?


Certainly a sterner defence than we put up on Saturday afternoon. I think he's missing the mark though, and describes more a Financial Accountant than a Financial Director.
 
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:lol: Sorry.

I've been saying it for years marra. It's an absolute swizz.
Thoughts on this @Grumpy Old Man?


Certainly a sterner defence than we put up on Saturday afternoon. I think he's missing the mark though, and describes more a Financial Accountant than a Financial Director.

Sadly he seems to feel the need to be a “protector”. He even constantly remarks throughout the article he doesn’t know her or what she did. None of the other departing directors got such write ups across any fan media that I know of.
 
Sadly he seems to feel the need to be a “protector”. He even constantly remarks throughout the article he doesn’t know her or what she did. None of the other departing directors got such write ups across any fan media that I know of.
I especially liked the part about it being a shame there'll be no females on the board. :rolleyes:
 
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I think i'd disagree with the author of the article on at least two points...


there's few paragraphs taken from it:

If the Chief Exec wants a cryochamber for his bad back resulting in the club’s medical bills being astronomical, there’s very little the FD can do apart from say what she thinks and carry on trying to pick up the perfectly refrigerated pieces."

If the owner is keen to get a player as a 3rd division marquee signing, there’s very little…. Well, you get the point.


Accountants in such companies spent a lot of their time being told to ‘sort that out’. As if the Chief Executives think that when we pass our exams, we’re told where the special secret money is hidden for bailing out the morons around you.


The FD should have brought it to the attention, that is a big part their job description, of the board members and shareholders. Any FD worth their salt, from my experience in this size of business (turnover), if they were being ignored or side lined will have had the opportunity to say "no thanks, your ignoring my advice, information and recommendations" should have had the courage to say "no thanks" and walk away.

I'm sure our former FD must have had plenty of opportunities than those i picked out to do as such. Only the former FD will know the reasons for remaining in post and not doing so.
 
An employee with 20 years service gets paid off and some are almost celebrating, f***ing weird bunch on here at times.
 
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