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Cronic latest, it has a poll as well :eek:
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fans are deranged
@: The best one would be Pep. The next one should be Eddie Howe.

@ : Mourinho. The one outsider that retains a massive respect for our club and can sort out a defence.

@ Frank Lampard. Who actually did better at managing Chelsea, than most people think he did. Actually.

@ I’d be going all out to get Rafa back

@ Graham Potter all day long his football style would suit us perfectly
 
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Cronic latest, it has a poll as well
Extra Extra it's al aboot wa

fans are deranged
@: The best one would be Pep. The next one should be Eddie Howe.

@ : Mourinho. The one outsider that retains a massive respect for our club and can sort out a defence.

@ Frank Lampard. Who actually did better at managing Chelsea, than most people think he did. Actually.

@ I’d be going all out to get Rafa back

@ Graham Potter all day long his football style would suit us perfectly
They would be unbearable if they got rafa back.
 
I gave them a billion pound to spend and sacked Steve Bruce on football manager.

They appointed Michael O'Neill as their new manager and the only signing they made before the transfer deadline was Jack O'Connell from Sheffield United for £18.5m.

They do however have a deal agreed to sign Dominic Calvert Lewin in January for £87m plus add ons.

Meanwhile my Sunderland team has won out first 19 league games in a row and are looking forward to a Carabao Cup semi final Vs Chelsea 😂
 
It’s entirely subjective who’s have the most ‘outraged fans’ and I very much disagree that Everton or Arsenal would have blocked a takeover.

also, ok, for the benefit of doubt I believe you’d Chuck it if you and not us were bought by the Saudis, but nothing would convince me that just like we did, as an overall fan base you’d likewise be clambering for tickets and dreaming / fantasising what potentially lies ahead. Would there be the outrage directed at your fellow Sunderland fans who go and back the takeover or is it easier to be more vocally outraged when it’s your nearest and dearest it happens to ??

to answer your question regarding am I comfortable with it all, then after reading up a bit then no I’m probably not, however I’m certainly not uncomfortable enough to stop being excited about it.
Well you bloody well should be
 
Cronic latest, it has a poll as well :eek:
Extra Extra it's al aboot wa

fans are deranged
@: The best one would be Pep. The next one should be Eddie Howe.

@ : Mourinho. The one outsider that retains a massive respect for our club and can sort out a defence.

@ Frank Lampard. Who actually did better at managing Chelsea, than most people think he did. Actually.

@
I’d be going all out to get Rafa back

@ Graham Potter all day long his football style would suit us perfectly
Both of these fellas are slowly losing hair and gaining weight. Sooner or later they’ll look like a Newcastle fan if nothing else.
 
It’s entirely subjective who’s have the most ‘outraged fans’ and I very much disagree that Everton or Arsenal would have blocked a takeover.

also, ok, for the benefit of doubt I believe you’d Chuck it if you and not us were bought by the Saudis, but nothing would convince me that just like we did, as an overall fan base you’d likewise be clambering for tickets and dreaming / fantasising what potentially lies ahead. Would there be the outrage directed at your fellow Sunderland fans who go and back the takeover or is it easier to be more vocally outraged when it’s your nearest and dearest it happens to ??

to answer your question regarding am I comfortable with it all, then after reading up a bit then no I’m probably not, however I’m certainly not uncomfortable enough to stop being excited about it.
The ecitement is because you're a supporter. You're conflicted but your, misguded, affection for your team dictates how you feel.

In all honesty I would be conflicted if it happened to us. But it hasn't.
 
I want to put this on record about Steve Bruce . Years ago when he played for Man united I remember my mam told me about the players because she knew Sir Alex, Sir Matt and the players from that era. Always said what a lovely guy Steve was and a credit to the North East . Enjoyed a pint and was also a credit to MU as well as being club captain for years. He is still a legend at Man U.
On Sunday one guy has a heart attack Game is stopped etc etc massive concern but hes Ok I hear. On the other side of pitch is Steve Bruce with thousands booing him at the end . No concern about him or his health or how he`s feeling. To me the only one really "busting a gut on the field" was Saint -Maximin.. The other players need to look in the mirror. Ask themselves questions as the lack of effort was obvious since season started . Yes hes got a payoff but monies not everything. Good luck Steve Bruce.
 
ONeill came in and improved the team a lot though didn't he? At least at first anyway. I remember thinking he'd do quite well there and it looked like he was going to
There was a small manager bounce when he took over but the real change was when he brought in Fletcher, N'Diaye,Wayne Bridge and he who shall no longer be named in January
 
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The ecitement is because you're a supporter. You're conflicted but your, misguded, affection for your team dictates how you feel.

In all honesty I would be conflicted if it happened to us. But it hasn't.

yeah maybe, football for whatever reasons blinds many of us.
 
Full answer obviously.
Football side should be set up to either score more than the opposition, control the ball so they can't score, or defend well so they don't score.

Benitez had a squad built for promotion and safety. The defence was well drilled, the team worked hard, but were limited.

We were pragmatic and surrendered possession, but there was a clear plan. Perez harass the back line, hit Rondon with long balls, force attackers into a compact centre, reduce opportunities inside the box. We were set up to defend well so the opposition don't score.

Under Bruce we were passive, surrendered possession, and there's one plan; get it to Saint-Maximin. We're so easy to play through, we concede soft goals and rely on a moment of inspiration from Wilson, or ASM and the 'keeper to pull off top performance.

DefenceGoals againstOffensive
SeasonPosTeamMWDLGGAPTSxGxGAxPTSShots pgTackles pgInterceptions pgFouls pgOffsides pgOpen PlayCounter AttackSet PiecePenaltyOwn GoalShots pgShots OT pgDribbles pgFouled pg
2018​
10​
Newcastle United
38​
12​
8​
18​
39​
47​
44​
44.63​
52.47​
46.24​
12.6​
16.9​
11.6​
10.8​
1.7​
35​
1​
4​
4​
3​
11.9​
3.9​
8​
9.7​
2019​
13​
Newcastle United
38​
12​
9​
17​
42​
48​
45​
39.91​
57.55​
39.22​
12.9​
18.8​
13.3​
11.1​
1.6​
26​
2​
13​
6​
1​
11.7​
3.7​
6.2​
8.7​
2020​
13​
Newcastle United
38​
11​
11​
16​
38​
58​
44​
36.49​
67.03​
31.92​
14.9​
15.9​
10.3​
9.7​
2​
35​
4​
15​
2​
2​
10.5​
3.5​
10.5​
11.1​
2021​
12​
Newcastle United
38​
12​
9​
17​
46​
62​
45​
43.96​
60.02​
42.65​
15.1​
13.5​
9.5​
10.2​
1.5​
41​
6​
8​
4​
3​
10.4​
3.7​
9.2​
11.1​

Just a few performance metrics, but they show a clear regression in terms of chance creation, chances allows, defensive actions, attacking actions. It's only really dribbles and numbers of times we're fouled that've 'improved'. But I guess that's what having Allan Saint-Maximin can do for a side.
 
That defence was the joint 7th best in the league when he arrived.
In the 2 and a bit seasons since, no other premier league team has conceded more league goals.

So with good coaching and organisation it is certainly capable of being more than it is now, in my opinion.

I think a lot of the stuff that is said, this team is bad, the players are bad.... It's reflective of Steve Bruce making them look much worse than they are. They're not world beaters but with proper coaching they're better than this.

One thing for Rafa he can make a poor team hard to beat and Everton are about to see that with all their injuries, but he trades it for a lack of goals. Clear evidence SB tried to play with more freedom in 20/21 but conceded 62 goals. No one on here is going to say he (SB) is a great manager because he isn't but he was on a hiding to nothing.

I am a big fan of Rafa and as I have repeatedly said on here he played NUFC fans for fools and numerous people told me (I don't live far away) he was going to China way before it came out.

Very few people can organise a defence like Rafa can.....and certainly Lampard and Fonseca can't.

2017/18 (Rafa): 39/47 - 14th F, 7th A
2018/19 (Rafa): 42/48 - 15th F, Joint 7th A
2019/20 (Bruce): 38/58 - 16th F, 14th A
2020/21 (Bruce): 46/62 - 14th F, 16th A
 
Time really will tell if the squad is better than it’s shown

In my view your defence and central midfield are very much championship standard

You could be in bother by January
Maybe, yeah. Better manager should have that defence performing better than it currently is. With January window coming up I'd hope we'd strengthen both areas.
 
There was a small manager bounce when he took over but the real change was when he brought in Fletcher, N'Diaye,Wayne Bridge and he who shall no longer be named in January

he was unreal that season like

that’s the earliest we have been safe since Peter Reid. Like 8 or 9 games. That’s a really good season

he cares an unfair wrap on here like, the next season didn’t go well but if you think what’s happened since the reaction was way over the top

the fact we sacked him for di canio, I still can’t believe that. Was the start of the utter chaos that moment and we never really settled after
 
he was unreal that season like

that’s the earliest we have been safe since Peter Reid. Like 8 or 9 games. That’s a really good season

he cares an unfair wrap on here like, the next season didn’t go well but if you think what’s happened since the reaction was way over the top

the fact we sacked him for di canio, I still can’t believe that. Was the start of the utter chaos that moment and we never really settled after

O'Neill just didnt work out at all
 
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