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Seems to be doing all right at Everton.

His CV is the problem though, isn't it? He's been mediocre at best for his entire managerial career. He's been bollocks at organising a defence, average at getting forward play sorted.
The squad is better than we've been playing.

Depends if you want a full answer, or want to score internet points mate. Happy with either.
Yes, I understand why you'd want a better manager, but I don't get the hate for Bruce. It's not his fault he's a bang average mananger. He's not done much worse than Rafa and not had the same level of investment or say in signings, but Rafa is still popular with the majority of your fans. And no one holds that relegation against Shearer. What's so awful about Bruce, especially considering he is a Geordie and NUFC fan, doing his (limited) best?

Also, your current squad is horrible. There's only 2 or 3 of them worth keeping and your marquee signing (that Bruce had nowt to do with) is probably pound for pound the worst value signing in your history.
 
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I see your point, I wish I hadn't answered the original question now....

I think you've hit the nail on the head with one comment as that is how I feel, totally ambivalent to the situation, I didn't take an interest in KSA before this, as I am sure many others didn't, and I only took a passing interest in the Khashoggi murder....
This still won't make me protest, as I stated earlier, I don't see the point, but if others want to then so be it....

A lot of people have only took an interest in this since NUFC were purchased, I believe many just because of this, if you keep yourself informed of situations around the world then fair play to you, its not my thing....

I think its best I stay off this thread
Fair comment and good response. I don't think the moral outrage, even if some of it is faux-outrage, will be going away anytime soon.
 
I don't really understand the comparisons to Benitez tbh.

Rafa made a profit whilst there, whereas Bruce's net spend was >£100m.

Even with Bruce spending loads more he could only equal Benitez' tenure.

Not to mention when you look into the stats during the spells in charge Bruce's is abysmal.
 
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Fukin state of Michael Chopra on SSN talking about Bruce..!!
Couple of things I took from that then:

‘rafa brung the fans and the city together’

‘Bruce wore the black and white badge on his heart’ :confused:

Illiterate little shit.
Fukin state of Michael Chopra on SSN talking about Bruce..!!
Sitting in his bedsit with his primark fleece on. Scruffy bastard.
 
I’m not explaining anything other than the fact I am more than happy supporting the club I’ve always done. It really is that simple.

You’re vain attempts at trying to Shame anybody or paint this morally bankrupt tag who continues to support the club is as futile as it is ridiculous.
Not trying to shame anyone. I am just expressing amazement at how little outrage is shown by your fans. I think the response from many club's fans would be very different. I guess what gets me is that you want to be everyone's mate on the music thread yet you want to tar everyone with your 'lack of morals when it comes to football' brush.

I have not said you can't support your club but cannot believe you aren't uncomfortable with being owned by the man who ordered the murder of Jamal Khashoggi. You even suggested you had an ignorance of Saudi crimes. Not even you could be unaware of the worldwide outrage at that murder.

By the way it's 'your' not 'you're'.
 
Not trying to shame anyone. I am just expressing amazement at how little outrage is shown by your fans. I think the response from many club's fans would be very different. I guess what gets me is that you want to be everyone's mate on the music thread yet you want to tar everyone with your 'lack of morals when it comes to football' brush.

I have not said you can't support your club but cannot believe you aren't uncomfortable with being owned by the man who ordered the murder of Jamal Khashoggi. You even suggested you had an ignorance of Saudi crimes. Not even you could be unaware of the worldwide outrage at that murder.

By the way it's 'your' not 'you're'.
There was bloody Hell on here when that picture of DiCanio doing the Roman salute came out...
 
I don't really understand the comparisons to Benitez tbh.

Rafa made a profit whilst there, whereas Bruce's net spend was >£100m.

Even with Bruce spending loads more he could only equal Benitez' tenure.

Not to mention when you look into the stats during the spells in charge Bruce's is abysmal.
He made a profit because he inherited a load of players that Ashley was able to sell for huge prices. Sissoko for £30m for fuck's sake!

He then spent a large amount on inflated fees for short term solutions that he lumbered the club and Bruce with.
 
Oh but it’s ok for your fans to believe Bruce that we threw coins at him?

You lot believe what you choose to believe.

Why didn’t Rafa receive the same criticism or abuse then?
Because having won things elsewhere he made them feel like a big club and relevant. Even though he relegated them, he could have had double relegations and they would have said he had a plan to rebuild. He did them up like a kipper
 
This tired old myopic argument is so ridiculous. Any amount of modest scrutiny would show that there are clear differences between the two periods. You've had Bruce as a manager, you've seen first hand what his failings are, and as football has evolved beyond kick-and-rush his out-of-date style has become prehistoric.

The personal abuse he's received (on twitter) is shit, the criticism he's received was totally justified.
I have a feeling Rafa, like Mourinho, is yesterday's man. However, you are correct re: Bruce. after 1000 games his limitations are beyond dispute. His absolute peak performance is 10th.
 
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