Mr.Thunders
Striker
Have we fund the plane yit.
It's LOST
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Have we fund the plane yit.
They signed 4 last summer, they tried and failed to fix the problem. There is this idea that Speakman has spent the last 2 years saying that centre forwards are useless and we don't need one. Obviously nobody is gonna thank him for signing players who aren't at the level, but it's obvious he agrees that it needs fixing.I think what the lad your responding to means is that KLD & Speakman have dragged out the replacement Centre Forward issue since a year ago gone last January, some 20 months or so, and still have not addressed the glaring hole in the side that most supporters as well as local media can see. That, for me, is down to one of two things, Money and ambition. These players we tend to go after can see that they are not prepared to pay the going rate which then leads to questions on a perceived lack of ambition by the ownership. Its that clear.
You really don't understand this place, do you?I posted weeks ago. I’ll say it again.
Look at all the history. This is dead in the water.
This thread has to stop.
We may have been interested. We’ve been scared off any it’s finished. The owners won’t tolerate anyone with a voice and absolute zero chance no matter how desperate we are us mendy signing. Just close the thread and hope some unknown, unproven striker from Brighton joins in loan.
I think you are rightThey signed 4 last summer, they tried and failed to fix the problem. There is this idea that Speakman has spent the last 2 years saying that centre forwards are useless and we don't need one. Obviously nobody is gonna thank him for signing players who aren't at the level, but it's obvious he agrees that it needs fixing.
About our ambition, how have we managed to con the likes of Ballard and Rigg into signing contracts here? How come we don't see Clarke going on strike like Rowe has from Norwich?
Maybe things aren't as bad as all that, and it's just a centre forward or 2 away from being a very good Championship squad?
Well not for us it isn't!I think you are right
But “just a centre forward or 2 away” is not exactly close![]()
Its much more than just a centre forward , as you put it. Going off the showing v Preston and on field performances last season by these 4 you mentioned and others, you should be worried... I am. This, what seems to be a scattergun ,approach in signing players to develop rarely works en masse. He may well have recognised his failings, I doubt it , but these next few weeks are going to be quite interesting.They signed 4 last summer, they tried and failed to fix the problem. There is this idea that Speakman has spent the last 2 years saying that centre forwards are useless and we don't need one. Obviously nobody is gonna thank him for signing players who aren't at the level, but it's obvious he agrees that it needs fixing.
About our ambition, how have we managed to con the likes of Ballard and Rigg into signing contracts here? How come we don't see Clarke going on strike like Rowe has from Norwich?
Maybe things aren't as bad as all that, and it's just a centre forward or 2 away from being a very good Championship squad?
Thats where your arguing against yourself tho with that line - as @molthemackem says it comes down to money and ambition and signing 4 untested, untried, young, raw (and ultimately not good enough) centre forwards to fix a problem is like throwing shit against a wall and hoping it sticks.They signed 4 last summer, they tried and failed to fix the problem. There is this idea that Speakman has spent the last 2 years saying that centre forwards are useless and we don't need one. Obviously nobody is gonna thank him for signing players who aren't at the level, but it's obvious he agrees that it needs fixing.
About our ambition, how have we managed to con the likes of Ballard and Rigg into signing contracts here? How come we don't see Clarke going on strike like Rowe has from Norwich?
Maybe things aren't as bad as all that, and it's just a centre forward or 2 away from being a very good Championship squad?
You mean like every club?Its very clear to me that we are always looking to acquire players at the cheapest price possible we are one of those kents that to use a house buying analogy :were the twats that go on a viewing and butter up the vendor oh yes the house is great well done on the presentation ... i see your asking for 300 thousand ,well we like it so much so we would like to offer 200 thousand!I firmly believe were under offering well below market value again and again and hoping someone will be desperate enough to sell!It’s obviously not working so we will end up in the rental sector in a very low rent area!
ExactlyYou mean like every club?
We are not "just 2 forwards away" though are we. The team put out against Preston Bar Rigg, Aoochiche and may be Ekwah should worry every single Sunderland Supporter for the coming season. Speakman has signed player who are not capable of challenging those in the first team. Thats what you do if you want success, recruit better than what you already have, its a basic or should be of any football team wanting to progress not buying or signing players just for the sake of it.Thats where your arguing against yourself tho with that line - as @molthemackem says it comes down to money and ambition and signing 4 untested, untried, young, raw (and ultimately not good enough) centre forwards to fix a problem is like throwing shit against a wall and hoping it sticks.
We are not "just 2 forwards away" though are we. The team put out against Preston Bar Rigg, Aoochiche and may be Ekwah should worry every single Sunderland Supporter for the coming season. Speakman has signed player who are not capable of challenging those in the first team. Thats what you do if you want success, recruit better than what you already have, its a basic or should be of any football team wanting to progress not buying or signing players just for the sake of it.
yep - agree with this apart from Aouchiche..really dont think hes good enough and im sick of seeing Ekwah ploddingWe are not "just 2 forwards away" though are we. The team put out against Preston Bar Rigg, Aoochiche and may be Ekwah should worry every single Sunderland Supporter for the coming season. Speakman has signed player who are not capable of challenging those in the first team. Thats what you do if you want success, recruit better than what you already have, its a basic or should be of any football team wanting to progress not buying or signing players just for the sake of it.
Grass is always greener on the other side for some isn't it? People acting like we're uniquely shit because we don't have two strong championship level XIs and we can't afford to spend £5m+ on individual players. Mad how some people still haven't adjusted their expectations to the level we've fallen to after all these years now.You mean like every club?
No!and if you don't have the acumen to see the difference im not taking the time to explain it to you!You mean like every club?
If we were to field that 11 this season then aye I agree we'd be bang in trouble. But Rigg and Ekwah I have no worries about, they could play on Sunday and we'd be fine. Mundle and Auochiche I think will contribute this season, probably as starters at some point.Its much more than just a centre forward , as you put it. Going off the showing v Preston and on field performances last season by these 4 you mentioned and others, you should be worried... I am. This, what seems to be a scattergun ,approach in signing players to develop rarely works en masse. He may well have recognised his failings, I doubt it , but these next few weeks are going to be quite interesting.
So we are the only club in the world that wants the best possible deal? Every other club just pays the asking price straight away?No!and if you don't have the acumen to see the difference im not taking the time to explain it to you!
Caen put the fee up when he landed.Aye, apparently smooth landing.
He's an absolute Spenk, just argues with no substance at all.Who put 50p in murton mag?
Seems to be trying very hard to trash every thread on the front page