Alex Neil signed improved terms 4 weeks ago


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I would imagine that's because they have collective bargaining in place via a powerful union - so I'd say aye, football management is very different.

But even within unionised industries, pay offers are accepted on pragmatic grounds without strikes...
And if your contracts states that, even if you accept the increased pay, your employer must let you leave for a better offer with minimal notice of course you would accept the increase- even if you thought you were worth more

The problem here was that our Board, presumably to save money, were content to leave the free movement clause in the contract rather than offer AN an increase to get rid of it

Which allowed Stoke to poach a key rivals manager right at the crucial point of the transfer window with minimal compensation.

Sure they blew us out of the water with the wages they offered AN but if he gets them into the play offs and then promoted it will seem like chicken feed won’t it?

Let’s just hope the SAFC Board learned from last season and before next match the new manager is in place - and I personally hope it is Tony Mowbray
 
And if your contracts states that, even if you accept the increased pay, your employer must let you leave for a better offer with minimal notice of course you would accept the increase- even if you thought you were worth more

The problem here was that our Board, presumably to save money, were content to leave the free movement clause in the contract rather than offer AN an increase to get rid of it

Which allowed Stoke to poach a key rivals manager right at the crucial point of the transfer window with minimal compensation.

Sure they blew us out of the water with the wages they offered AN but if he gets them into the play offs and then promoted it will seem like chicken feed won’t it?

Let’s just hope the SAFC Board learned from last season and before next match the new manager is in place - and I personally hope it is Tony Mowbray
What if Alex Neil would only sign if that condition remained? What do we do then?

The guy is an unprofessional snake, not saying the club is blameless but it’s clear Alex Neil and Stoke are at the centre of this.
 
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What if Alex Neil would only sign if that condition remained? What do we do then?

The guy is an unprofessional snake, not saying the club is blameless but it’s clear Alex Neil and Stoke are at the centre of this.
This is the way contracts work in football

If LND came to us saying he would continue to play on his existing wage on condition he could leave to play for another club (Rangers, Aston Villa, whoever) with no notice would we accept such a clause.

At some price AN would have dropped the clause and Stoke would not have been able to poach him at zero cost in compensating us

But our cheese paring Board chose not to take that step and now are managerless at exactly the wrong time
 
This is the way contracts work in football

If LND came to us saying he would continue to play on his existing wage on condition he could leave to play for another club (Rangers, Aston Villa, whoever) with no notice would we accept such a clause.

At some price AN would have dropped the clause and Stoke would not have been able to poach him at zero cost in compensating us

But our cheese paring Board chose not to take that step and now are managerless at exactly the wrong time
Absolutely no proof of this whatsoever
 
Amazing how many buggers on here are experts and ITK about what has been happening behind the scenes and the motivation for him leaving.
None of you know anything man. :lol:
Hardly need to be Sherlock Holmes to figure it out though do you? It's f***ing obvious. I know you'll say we have to wait for both sides of the story but Neil ain't gonna be telling people he left for money. Not a cat in hells chance he will be honest.
 
This is the way contracts work in football

If LND came to us saying he would continue to play on his existing wage on condition he could leave to play for another club (Rangers, Aston Villa, whoever) with no notice would we accept such a clause.

At some price AN would have dropped the clause and Stoke would not have been able to poach him at zero cost in compensating us

But our cheese paring Board chose not to take that step and now are managerless at exactly the wrong time
You’ve invented a whole scenario to blame this wholly on the club here mind. Truth is we know very little, except AN is a man who was happy to turn up to watch his new club away from home, while his current employers lost at home.

Says everything I need to know about the situation and the man.
 
Hardly need to be Sherlock Holmes to figure it out though do you? It's f***ing obvious. I know you'll say we have to wait for both sides of the story but Neil ain't gonna be telling people he left for money. Not a cat in hells chance he will be honest.
No it's not obvious, it's all conjecture, guesses and people who just think they know more than they do. That's why there's 100 different theories from different people.
It's all just guesswork so far. If you think otherwise, provide proof.
 
He wasn't backed...

We signed Clarke and Roberts, 2 good players from last season. Ballard and the excellent Simms on loan.

Neil has shat on us for f***ing Stoke! He should have moved his family up here during the close season.
But not clearly the players AN had earmarked to have a real go. That was KS's "remit" and one which clearly AN refused to swallow.
 
No it's not obvious, it's all conjecture, guesses and people who just think they know more than they do. That's why there's 100 different theories from different people.
It's all just guesswork so far. If you think otherwise, provide proof.
The Alex Neil Sunderland fan club is an extremely small but committed group.....
 
But not clearly the players AN had earmarked to have a real go. That was KS's "remit" and one which clearly AN refused to swallow.
The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Roberts and Clarke undoubtedly helped us get promotion. They are both good players.

Both Ballard and Simms have looked excellent in the Championship as has Clarke.

This French kid has an amazing pedigree. 6 games for PSG at 19!

Who did Neil want? A couple of never had beens from Preston?
 
This is the way contracts work in football

If LND came to us saying he would continue to play on his existing wage on condition he could leave to play for another club (Rangers, Aston Villa, whoever) with no notice would we accept such a clause.

At some price AN would have dropped the clause and Stoke would not have been able to poach him at zero cost in compensating us

But our cheese paring Board chose not to take that step and now are managerless at exactly the wrong time
It's as simple as that.
Penny pinching as cost us our manager.
 
Here's a new contract for you and because the money's not great you can f*ck off if something with better wages comes along
 
The proof of the pudding is in the eating.

Roberts and Clarke undoubtedly helped us get promotion. They are both good players.

Both Ballard and Simms have looked excellent in the Championship as has Clarke.

This French kid has an amazing pedigree. 6 games for PSG at 19!

Who did Neil want? A couple of never had beens from Preston?
I guess we'll see who he buys at Stoke to find out.
 
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