Alex Neil signed improved terms 4 weeks ago


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I think you have a bee in your bonnet about AN

All he did was respond in the way any other successful manager on a short term contract would if another club offered to double or triple his salary

How many other clubs have tried to poach Speakman btw? Or our current CEO?

Neil wanted the rolling contract, I'm sure if he said to Speakman 4 weeks ago "Look, could we make this a 2/3 contract with the same uplifts as the rolling contract" the club would have been happy to do that. One thing that doesn't change is another club coming in and offering more which is what's happened and he's gone.

He was happy 4 weeks ago and now he's gone for more money, I've no problem with that. It's happened at pretty much every club in operation and it'll happen again.

We've all seen this club being run poorly in recent years, possibly the past decade. I wouldn't say what the current board are doing now is poor when compared with our recent history.
 
what a terrible example :lol:
It is a terrible example to make the point - Speakman and our CEO are of no interest to any other clubs at our level

On the other hand the world and his dog could see what a good job AN was doing at Sunderland

Took over a team being beaten at home by Doncaster Rovers FFS and made us virtually unbeatable

So it doesnt take a genius to work out other ambitious Championship clubs would be interested in hiring him - especially if they have megabucks from 365 in their back pocket and they hear he is on a short term contract

SAFC should have negotiated a contract which tied him down

How do I know he was able to leave and there will be no significant compensation because of the nature of his contract?

Well AN has left and I have certainly not read anything saying Stoke City will be paying any compensation. Have you?

Club is being badly run
 
That's my point mate, he is either lying or hiding something.

Personally I don't see 'holding something back' as a bad thing. He's promised a transparent explanation after due process is followed - which I think we all appreciate means allowing Neil to sign his stoke contract and f*** off out of our club and off our employment roll.

And while I don't think he's going to say anything that will show himself in a bad light (he's clearly too savvy for that), I do believe he'll want to confirm that Neil has done us over - not just him, KLD or the club.. but the fans as well - first chance he gets.
 
It is a terrible example to make the point - Speakman and our CEO are of no interest to any other clubs at our level

On the other hand the world and his dog could see what a good job AN was doing at Sunderland

Took over a team being beaten at home by Doncaster Rovers FFS and made us virtually unbeatable

So it doesnt take a genius to work out other ambitious Championship clubs would be interested in hiring him - especially if they have megabucks from 365 in their back pocket and they hear he is on a short term contract

SAFC should have negotiated a contract which tied him down

How do I know he was able to leave and there will be no significant compensation because of the nature of his contract?

Well AN has left and I have certainly not read anything saying Stoke City will be paying any compensation. Have you?

Club is being badly run
Don't see Barcelona or Real Madrid beating the door down for Alex Neil. Stop talking shite Mr.
 
"We had a really well structured contract for when he [Neil] moved into the Championship," explained Speakman

"It had the appropriate up-lifts, etc. We had a discussion in the summer because we wanted to reward him and almost provide a well done. That contract was redrawn up and was only signed four weeks ago.
Still 12 month rolling contract

Stoke 3 years minimum.

Bigger pay off when sacked?

No brainer.
 
Don't see Barcelona or Real Madrid beating the door down for Alex Neil. Stop talking shite Mr.
Not Barcelona but Stoke City - probably the club with the most cash in the Championship although currently under FFP sanction - did beat our flimsy door down

Speakman any interest to any other club?

Thought not
 
It is a terrible example to make the point - Speakman and our CEO are of no interest to any other clubs at our level

On the other hand the world and his dog could see what a good job AN was doing at Sunderland

Took over a team being beaten at home by Doncaster Rovers FFS and made us virtually unbeatable

So it doesnt take a genius to work out other ambitious Championship clubs would be interested in hiring him - especially if they have megabucks from 365 in their back pocket and they hear he is on a short term contract

SAFC should have negotiated a contract which tied him down

How do I know he was able to leave and there will be no significant compensation because of the nature of his contract?

Well AN has left and I have certainly not read anything saying Stoke City will be paying any compensation. Have you?


Club is being badly run
From The Athletic: 'The buy-out clause Stoke have met will bring some funds in to put towards the next manager’s wages...' Neil hasn't officially left either.
 
Roumers going around neil new week's ago about a contract on the table for him from Stoke but at to wait until O'Neil was sacked it tells me o' neil had something in he's contract that stop stoke from sacking him until it was triggered
 
From The Athletic: 'The buy-out clause Stoke have met will bring some funds in to put towards the next manager’s wages...' Neil hasn't officially left either.
Ok - lets wait and see how much compensation and whether it is put towards the new manager

What the compensation clearly did not do - because the contract was short term so it would not have been set at a high level - was to stop AN from being poached
 
Ok - lets wait and see how much compensation and whether it is put towards the new manager

What the compensation clearly did not do - because the contract was short term so it would not have been set at a high level - was to stop AN from being poached
How often are clubs put off by the compensation, it rarely happens when you've got money to hoy around.
 
How often are clubs put off by the compensation, it rarely happens when you've got money to hoy around.
Well having to pay compensation certainly makes it more expensive - and therefore less likely - that your manager gets poached

That is the whole point of agreeing a long term contract - as Stoke in fact show having just agreed a three year contract with AN

Presumably because they are not being run by a bunch of tight cheese-paring amateurs way out of their depth

No doubt our lot will as we write be trying to cheese pare Mowbray - Lord Preserve Us 🙄
 
Well having to pay compensation certainly makes it more expensive - and therefore less likely - that your manager gets poached

That is the whole point of agreeing a long term contract - as Stoke in fact show having just agreed a three year contract with AN

Presumably because they are not being run by a bunch of tight cheese-paring amateurs way out of their depth

No doubt our lot will as we write be trying to cheese pare Mowbray - Lord Preserve Us 🙄
Your cheese paring crack is f***ing lifting man, same shit every post. We've got compensation for him, despite you claiming otherwise and now the compensation isn't enough, despite you having no idea how much it is.
 
Well having to pay compensation certainly makes it more expensive - and therefore less likely - that your manager gets poached

That is the whole point of agreeing a long term contract - as Stoke in fact show having just agreed a three year contract with AN

Presumably because they are not being run by a bunch of tight cheese-paring amateurs way out of their depth

No doubt our lot will as we write be trying to cheese pare Mowbray - Lord Preserve Us 🙄

You don't get extra points for putting the word 'Cheese' in your posts mate.
 
Ok no cheese

But resorting to abuse about Byker certainly proves nothing

The Athletic claims that Stoke will pay compensation- SAFC said that under the terms of AN contract that we had to allow Stoke and AN to talk

A standard three year contract would have allowed us to say to Stoke “sling your hook” when they approached us

If they still persisted they would have been on the hook for possibly millions in compensation- so they would have looked elsewhere

We chose not to offer/negotiate/ demand a long term contract - exactly as AN has now agreed with Stoke City

The two reasons for this are that to get him to commit for longer we would have had to offer more coin

AND

If we subsequently decided to sack AN we would have had to pay up the balance of his contract

In case you have not noticed the current owners of the club show absolutely no willingness to invest in its development preferring instead to keep players on short contracts, close supporter facilities such as the shop and ticket office, refuse to invest in safety equipment to protect fans from flying bottles and even recruit fans to put the stadium seats in.

Being tight wads has kept us in League 1 for four years, emptied our academy of talent, lost us our best manager since leaving the PL and looks set to lose us the talented generation of young players currently in the first team.

And no cheese slices in the burgers either
 
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