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Fuck Alex Neil for dropping us in the shit 5 games in, fuck Stoke for clearly tapping him up
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It appears so but then he lost his jobSo Preston managed to keep him despite Stoke wanting him but we couldn't?
It just gets worse.
I never said it was a miracle mate,but from where we were,it was exceptional.I have no agenda. I agree he was better than Grayson, Coleman, Ross, Parkinson and Johnson. But they were also the worst managers in our entire history. Sorry, getting Sunderland out of League One isn’t a miracle, as evidenced by those who failed getting sacked. It’s like getting a big six club in the top four, it’s not a miracle, it’s the remit of the job.
Could we match Stoke City's offer? Again the huge point being missed is Neil accepted and felt the pay rise he was given 4 weeks ago was acceptable. We then offered him a further pay rise, which he rejected. Why should we break what we're building to offer Alex Neil over the odds? No offence to the bloke, but he's Alex Neil! He done a good job, but Jesus we'll go onto better things than him.It’s business. They’re paying Neil what’s he’s worth after being undervalued here despite performing a miracle.
We should have sat him down after Wembley, offered him what he wanted then, on a long term contract. It was obviously possible and it’s something Nick Barnes confirmed. He said the club/ Speakman/ KLD was arrogant enough to think he wasn’t going to go anywhereCould we match Stoke City's offer? Again the huge point being missed is Neil accepted and felt the pay rise he was given 4 weeks ago was acceptable. We then offered him a further pay rise, which he rejected. Why should we break what we're building to offer Alex Neil over the odds? No offence to the bloke, but he's Alex Neil! He done a good job, but Jesus we'll go onto better things than him.
We should have sat him down after Wembley, offered him what he wanted then, on a long term contract. It was obviously possible and it’s something Nick Barnes confirmed. He said the club/ Speakman/ KLD was arrogant enough to think he wasn’t going to go anywhere
Fuck Alex Neil for dropping us in the shit 5 games in, fuck Stoke for clearly tapping him up
Stoke have done nowt wrong. It’s what all sensible clubs do when thinking of replacing a manager.
Nick Barnes is the Ken Barlow of commentators. Doesn't really like the regime at the club so he'll say any old shiteWe should have sat him down after Wembley, offered him what he wanted then, on a long term contract. It was obviously possible and it’s something Nick Barnes confirmed. He said the club/ Speakman/ KLD was arrogant enough to think he wasn’t going to go anywhere
His silence since he skulked off says it allFuck Alex Neil for dropping us in the shit 5 games in, fuck Stoke for clearly tapping him up
I think it was mentioned on the match stream last week Radio Stoke, he did a few interviews while at Preston as he had similar contract but couldn't agree terms with Stoke at the time, think WBA was the other. You have to consider this was his plan all along, he didn't want a L1 club said it in a few interviews but couldn't get a job, he hit the ground running which helped us.So Preston managed to keep him despite Stoke wanting him but we couldn't?
It just gets worse.
ExactlyI think it was mentioned on the match stream last week Radio Stoke, he did a few interviews while at Preston as he had similar contract but couldn't agree terms with Stoke at the time, think WBA was the other. You have to consider this was his plan all along, he didn't want a L1 club said it in a few interviews but couldn't get a job, he hit the ground running which helped us.
Little soundbites along the way have always suggested he has a high opinion of his ability and won't stick around if not happy.
What annoys me is that he was never as invested in the job as we all thought/hoped. assumed we had a 4-5 year coach totally focused when the truth is more likely Stoke was always lined up as MON faltered and the relationship was there.
Be nice to get back to football again
If he thought he was undervalued he shouldn't have signed the f***ing contract. How many f***ing times does this have to be said???Neil should not have gone to their match while he was still SAFC manager. It was terrible behaviour.
But ultimately, I do not blame him one bit for leaving and how many of us can say we'd act differently if (like Neil) we were dealing with two clubs who there was no underlying affinity towards?
We were paying him a pittance for the division, which they trebled, and also trebled the length of time on his contract. Yes, he just signed a new deal with us, but our board and sporting director should be smart enough to understand if they're underpaying a key employee who has been vital to our success, they will lose him if there is a reasonable alternative. Do we expect him to hang around when the board are hedging their bets on him with rolling contracts? No, and if the next person comes in on that type of 'prove it' deal, I suspect we'll lose them as soon as they have any success too.
I sadly think we're more likely headed towards a Watford model than long term stability.
So did Sunderland when they took Cotterill and going back further Alan Durban, both from Stoke. It happens in football. Seems like it’s ok when Sunderland do it but highly unacceptable and underhand when anyone else does.
Was clear from his first interview where he whinged about dropping into League One that Alex Neil only cares about Alex Neil. Tbh, if we ever wanted to push on in this league I’d have wanted rid of him anyway, we both got what we wanted out the relationship now time to fuck off and forget about it. Just find it hilarious how Neil was supposedly the man of principle who was on the level of the game and his predecessor was the tosser only interested in his own brandIf he thought he was undervalued he shouldn't have signed the f***ing contract. How many f***ing times does this have to be said???
"Offered him what he wanted". Give your head a shake.We should have sat him down after Wembley, offered him what he wanted then, on a long term contract. It was obviously possible and it’s something Nick Barnes confirmed. He said the club/ Speakman/ KLD was arrogant enough to think he wasn’t going to go anywhere
What goes around comes around. Karma is a bitch.The way in which both these parties have behaved is a disgrace and if there is any justice in this world they will both fail miserably.
He didn’t want a long term contract, he wanted the same rolling contract so he could get out of it quickly when someone offered him more money. Keep up Tom lad.We should have sat him down after Wembley, offered him what he wanted then, on a long term contract. It was obviously possible and it’s something Nick Barnes confirmed. He said the club/ Speakman/ KLD was arrogant enough to think he wasn’t going to go anywhere