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Makes you wonder why they've saved their best for the cups and not the league then.

I'm in the 'nice to win shiny thing but not worth sacrificing PL status and any chance of real long term success for it' club, I'm afraid.
 
Boring!

Professional footballer wanting to be at the top and then questions why THE FANS would rather have silverware?

Yes, because from his perspective one is clearly more of a priority. He's won the Premier League title so compared to that this is small fry.....why are you surprised?

I don't understand why some fans would prefer a cup win either. I'd be delighted if we win it, but not if it means getting relegated.

Wigan won the 'proper' cup last year and now they're struggling to get back up......why do people think it's going to be so easy for us?
 
You only start in round two if you finish bottom. Even then playing in Europe knocks you into a round three start - see Birmingham and the fact that AFC Wimbledon and Crawley had a preliminary round game on account of that very fact.

I personally couldn't give a fuck about the Premiership, I'd rather a cup win. Football is all about winners and we ain't going to be winning anything other than a cup for a long while. 10 years since our last crack at a semi-final and the chance to play at Wembley in a major final and possibly play in Europe, and some people would rather we play Crystal Palace and Hull a couple of times a season? Now that I don't understand.

Being in the premiership gives you a platform to win cups though..the longer your in the prem the more likely you are to get to cup finals and win cups. I like seeing us play good football. If we stay up this season I can see Poyet building a very very good team here in time and with a great style of football too booth. Staying up should not be looked at as a continuation of relegation battles for the foreseeable future but as the platform to really kick on...
 
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Adam Johnson: I can't really understand why some fans would rather win a cup than stay up.

He has a point like

Can see what he is thinking....i would be over the moon if we won the league cup, but even more devasted when relegated, it will hurt more :-(
 
You only start in round two if you finish bottom. Even then playing in Europe knocks you into a round three start - see Birmingham and the fact that AFC Wimbledon and Crawley had a preliminary round game on account of that very fact.

I personally couldn't give a fuck about the Premiership, I'd rather a cup win. Football is all about winners and we ain't going to be winning anything other than a cup for a long while. 10 years since our last crack at a semi-final and the chance to play at Wembley in a major final and possibly play in Europe, and some people would rather we play Crystal Palace and Hull a couple of times a season? Now that I don't understand.

On top of this, it's fairly easy for Johnson to come out with this with his Premiership & FA Cup winners medals safely in the house.

What about the less gifted members of our squad, surely when they retire they want to look at the mantelpiece and see a medal or two looking back at them instead of a cut out of the table from every season they managed to scrape a 17th place finish in the league?

He/they must have aspirations higher than that. You want to look at your career with a lot of pride, or has money really become the only success in this game - even for the players who can barely compete at the level we are? Terrible day for the sport if that is the case.
 
I think anyone who would rather win the cup than stay in the prem is basing this on the assumption we would come back up pretty swiftly.

If you said you win the cup and plummet like a stone then i dont think anyone would give a fuck about the cup.
 
Being in the premiership gives you a platform to win cups though..the longer your in the prem the more likely you are to get to cup finals and win cups. I like seeing us play good football. If we stay up this season I can see Poyet building a very very good team here in time and with a great style of football too booth. Staying up should not be looked at as a continuation of relegation battles for the foreseeable future but as the platform to really kick on...


Whilst I see where you are coming from this is a league wherein there are maybe 7 different teams you look out for the games against at the start of the season: Newcastle; Man Utd; Arsenal; Man City; Chelsea; Spurs; Liverpool. After that I couldn't care less because it's the same 12 teams battling it out against each other to stay in the division. I don't get excited at the prospect of a game against Stoke/Norwich/West Brom.

But the cups... man, the cups. They are special. They are an occasion. Whilst you have as a team, only beaten 5 teams or so, you've beat off competition from 91 other clubs in this cup/and hundreds in the FA Cup to win them. I look forward not only to the games, but the draws themselves - the wonder of who you can face out of the entire pyramid. It's fantastic. I've cared a lot more this season against MK Dons & Carlisle than I have for any fixture against f***ing West Ham, because at the end of it you're in with a chance of being in the hat for the next round with the cycle starting again and being tantalisingly closer to seeing a Sunderland captain leading the lads up the Wembley steps victorious. Whereas against any club in the league we trudge off knowing that we will maybe in a good season finish tenth. I'm a bit of a cup romanticist, though.

It does provide the money, to as you rightly say compete in the cups. However in recent times, until this season, our best cup runs have come on the back of being in the Champtionship (FA Cup Final '92; League Cup Semi '99 & FA Cup Semi '04).
 
Nobody will be talking about Sunderland in 40 years full stop if we go down. Go bust. End up in league 2.

It's actually an alarming lack of ambition swapping the prem for the league cup.

Cashing ya chips in.

The cup should be looked upon as a bonus. Not the priority.

Aye.

When you're comfortable in the league then fair enough, prioritise the cup games as the come. But when your life's on the line, well...[DOUBLEPOST=1389223166][/DOUBLEPOST]
He is, aye.
Nonsense. Just like that signature of yours.
 
Makes you wonder why they've saved their best for the cups and not the league then.

I'm in the 'nice to win shiny thing but not worth sacrificing PL status and any chance of real long term success for it' club, I'm afraid.

I genuinely think it's mostly a case of them finding it easier to play this new system when teams come at them.....when teams sit back we find it hard to break them down. We've beaten Man City, Newcastle and Everton in the league don't forget. Only Swansea (which I'm not even blaming Poyet for), Hull and Villa have been truly bad performances since he took over and two of those were largely down to Cattermoles idiotic efforts......so hopefully Bridcutt is in soon.
 
Aye.

When you're comfortable in the league then fair enough, prioritise the cup games as the come. But when your life's on the line, well...[DOUBLEPOST=1389223166][/DOUBLEPOST]
Nonsense. Just like that signature of yours.

He's f***ing shite, wake up man.
 
Why cant we go for the cup and survival? The performances against Chelsea/United prove they can do it.

Also like 'we are inconsistent' from Mr Inconsistency himself.
 
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