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- Our football is dire
- We're not creating loads
- Wyke is a f***ing disgrace of a footballer
- We have no pace whatsoever up front
- Without Maguire we are totally devoid of quality and creativity in the final third and it is f***ing madness to freeze McGeady out.
- Burge is still iffy
- Willis, Wright and Flanagan were constantly beaten for pace and guile
- Scowen didn't take his chance
- Maguire wasn't in it
- Gooch struggled to get in the game
- All of our strikers do fuck all and none are good enough to start
- The team selection of strikers shouldn't be pick and mix every week
- There's no way we are getting out of this league with this clown in charge
- Wyke is shocking
- O'Brien is a poor buy
- That was terrible

What happened to enjoying an important win on a Saturday night? We've got 7 points from three games - including two against playoff sides from last season. We're in the play off places and only two points off the leaders. We aren't conceding goals. Every player, however limited, is giving 100%.

Are people going to whinge on like this all season if we keep winning all season? If so, do they not think they may be happier finding a different hobby other than following a football team who they can't wait to slag off?

Is this a Parkinson thing? That people are so blinded by the fact they wanted Kevin Phillips or whoever that they will just slag the guy off even when he is getting good results?
 
It's only one playoff side from last season, Peterborough were the side nudged aside for Wycombe.

Generally, I agree though. We're not playing particularly well and we do need a goal scorer but things will click and we'll produce some very good performances at some point.
 
It's only one playoff side from last season, Peterborough were the side nudged aside for Wycombe.

Generally, I agree though. We're not playing particularly well and we do need a goal scorer but things will click and we'll produce some very good performances at some point.

Point taken on Peterborough, I should have said two sides were in the top 6 when the season paused.
 
- Our football is dire
- We're not creating loads
- Wyke is a f***ing disgrace of a footballer
- We have no pace whatsoever up front
- Without Maguire we are totally devoid of quality and creativity in the final third and it is f***ing madness to freeze McGeady out.
- Burge is still iffy
- Willis, Wright and Flanagan were constantly beaten for pace and guile
- Scowen didn't take his chance
- Maguire wasn't in it
- Gooch struggled to get in the game
- All of our strikers do fuck all and none are good enough to start
- The team selection of strikers shouldn't be pick and mix every week
- There's no way we are getting out of this league with this clown in charge
- Wyke is shocking
- O'Brien is a poor buy
- That was terrible

What happened to enjoying an important win on a Saturday night? We've got 7 points from three games - including two against playoff sides from last season. We're in the play off places and only two points off the leaders. We aren't conceding goals. Every player, however limited, is giving 100%.

Are people going to whinge on like this all season if we keep winning all season? If so, do they not think they may be happier finding a different hobby other than following a football team who they can't wait to slag off?

Is this a Parkinson thing? That people are so blinded by the fact they wanted Kevin Phillips or whoever that they will just slag the guy off even when he is getting good results?
It proves that a lot of people watched the game today.
 
Other than Burge being iffy (he's worse than that) and not being able to get out the league with Parkinson, I'd find it hard to disagree with most of that. We were very poor today, there's nothing wrong with people thinking that. Not sure the defence were constantly beaten either, dodgy in the first twenty minutes but that was more because of an inivisible midfield.

What's boring is people on here slagging off other Sunderland fans because they dare to have a different opinion, that's embarrassing.
 
- Our football is dire
- We're not creating loads
- Wyke is a f***ing disgrace of a footballer
- We have no pace whatsoever up front
- Without Maguire we are totally devoid of quality and creativity in the final third and it is f***ing madness to freeze McGeady out.
- Burge is still iffy
- Willis, Wright and Flanagan were constantly beaten for pace and guile
- Scowen didn't take his chance
- Maguire wasn't in it
- Gooch struggled to get in the game
- All of our strikers do fuck all and none are good enough to start
- The team selection of strikers shouldn't be pick and mix every week
- There's no way we are getting out of this league with this clown in charge
- Wyke is shocking
- O'Brien is a poor buy
- That was terrible

What happened to enjoying an important win on a Saturday night? We've got 7 points from three games - including two against playoff sides from last season. We're in the play off places and only two points off the leaders. We aren't conceding goals. Every player, however limited, is giving 100%.

Are people going to whinge on like this all season if we keep winning all season? If so, do they not think they may be happier finding a different hobby other than following a football team who they can't wait to slag off?

Is this a Parkinson thing? That people are so blinded by the fact they wanted Kevin Phillips or whoever that they will just slag the guy off even when he is getting good results?
You're right that the constant negativity isn't helping anything, but aside from Flanagan, Willis and Wright having good games they are all valid concerns. Parkonson has done a good job of shoring things up at the back, and that is of key importance because having a dodgy back line was what let Ross down, but he needs to find a spark of creativity from somewhere.

While it was a good result against one of the better teams in the division but it was won by a penalty and we didn't really have any cutting edge.
 
Can we not enjoy the win but still think some of those points are valid? Maybe some are genuinely concerned that playing badly but winning only lasts so long, then poor performances turn into poor results
 
Which things from your list there do you personally disagree with OP?

Well I suppose my point is that when we are getting good results I'd rather enjoy the positives.

But as you asked

- I don't think Wyke is a 'f***ing disgrace of a footballer' - I think he is limited, isn't enough of a goal threat, but has some attributes. I'd rather we had better, but having sat through Ndong, Rodwell, Kone, Djilobodji, etc in recent years I wouldn't call him a 'f***ing disgrace of a footballer'.

- McGeady is finished, is toxic, doesn't work hard enough, can't play for the team, and slows too many attacks down. It isn't 'f***ing madness' to freeze him out. We're more effective with him not in the side, even if we don't get the endless pirhouettes before lifting a cross into Row Z any more.

- I don't think we are totally devoid of quality in the final third. Gooch shows moments of quality and our wing backs do too.

- Our centre backs may have been outpaced at times, as most teams will be against them, but constantly beaten for guile? Don't remember that. They dealt with them well.

- I don't think Parkinson is a clown, I think he is a manager with a good record at this level, even with weaker teams, and has as much chance as anyone we could realistically appoint of getting us promoted, given the constraints he is working with.

- O'Brien has started two league games. Too early to write him off as a poor buy. He looks like a good footballer who is better in a wide position to me, but I'll wait and see.

- I don't think 'that was terrible'. We'd have lost that match under Ross. I think it was a match we could very easily have lost, we dug in, made ourselves hard to beat, and took a chance to win the game. That will do me.
 
- Our football is dire
- We're not creating loads
- Wyke is a f***ing disgrace of a footballer
- We have no pace whatsoever up front
- Without Maguire we are totally devoid of quality and creativity in the final third and it is f***ing madness to freeze McGeady out.
- Burge is still iffy
- Willis, Wright and Flanagan were constantly beaten for pace and guile
- Scowen didn't take his chance
- Maguire wasn't in it
- Gooch struggled to get in the game
- All of our strikers do fuck all and none are good enough to start
- The team selection of strikers shouldn't be pick and mix every week
- There's no way we are getting out of this league with this clown in charge
- Wyke is shocking
- O'Brien is a poor buy
- That was terrible

What happened to enjoying an important win on a Saturday night? We've got 7 points from three games - including two against playoff sides from last season. We're in the play off places and only two points off the leaders. We aren't conceding goals. Every player, however limited, is giving 100%.

Are people going to whinge on like this all season if we keep winning all season? If so, do they not think they may be happier finding a different hobby other than following a football team who they can't wait to slag off?

Is this a Parkinson thing? That people are so blinded by the fact they wanted Kevin Phillips or whoever that they will just slag the guy off even when he is getting good results?
Spot on post, it’s actually embarrassing loads of them craving a defeat, the same people who call mags for being self entitled and deluded, the irony.
 
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