A few on here getting a little bit touchy about the media

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similar in the sense he is described as a fascist yet was the overall reaction similar when he was installed as England manager??

The lead up before the initial press conference was pretty similar. I think the media sensed blood with PDC because he didnt couch his views as well as more media savvy types such as Capello and Scholari had. The tabloids had something on him because he blatantly said "I am a fascist". Tabloid gerld from the lips of anyone with a public profile. When the press conference was then botched it ratcheted things up to 11. This was the point things went viral. Of course Capello was always going to be a lot less naive and I doubt any of the tabloid boys dared eye ball him over it because they'd come off second best and then risk being exiled by the National Coach.
 
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I'm a sandalista left wing git who has spent many a night on the smb (sadly) arguing against racism, the bnp and any other right wing topic I could get my teeth into to.... however the press over Di Canio is absolute double standards

Do you honestly believe this press backlash would have happened if he was the new manager of West Ham? Until recently the press were talking about him as a Hammers legend who'd potentially return to the club as a hero, he was on the BBC commentary team last year, and recently managed a professional club in Swindon :confused:

If he'd took over any high profile Prem Club - especially if there was a Miliband-esque subplot - there'd be a shitstorm. If he joined Newcastle, the Shearer went ballistic on MOTD, you'd have a media shitstorm.

All except West Ham, because the main narrative would be the returning hero.

Let's not forget there was a furore over the mags' Wonga deal, and no such outrage over their sponsorship of Hearts or Blackpool. And we f***ing loved it.
 
If he'd took over any high profile Prem Club - especially if there was a Miliband-esque subplot - there'd be a shitstorm. If he joined Newcastle, the Shearer went ballistic on MOTD, you'd have a media shitstorm.

All except West Ham, because the main narrative would be the returning hero.

Let's not forget there was a furore over the mags' Wonga deal, and no such outrage over their sponsorship of Hearts or Blackpool. And we f***ing loved it.

So you're admitting to the hyprocisy. Thanks, that's all I was asking
 
Nothing much, a bit like Di Canio.

There was probably something more important happening in the news that week though.



From faux outrage to persecution complex in 48 hrs.

Canny :lol:

Eh? I said I was concerned and would want to read up more on the issue before feeling comfortable with the appointment. I did and am. My initial reaction was strong and emotional for the reason that most people concerned about the issue was. Like most people's it was essentially based on no actual evidence whatsoever. But I was wrong to jump the gun so quickly I'll admit. I've got no qualms whatever now and am really happy he's out manager.

But the amount on here charting their outrage at the media's lack of objectivity and determination to pursue their narrative, as if those are sins that aren't repeated on here on a daily basis, is pretty funny to be honest.

There simply wouldn't be an end to the issue if PDC was appointed at Newcasle, not because there is actually a strong argument to be morally opposed to it, but because it would make most on here feel better about themselves to believe Newcastle appointed a fascist as manager.

So aye, the media circus has been a joke, but so has the persecution complex on here.
 
So you're admitting to the hyprocisy. Thanks, that's all I was asking

It's not really hypocrisy. It's about the most compelling narrative. It's not the media's job to be fair or equitable, it's the media's job to sell advertising space.

Once you realise that you'll see there's no conspiracy against Sunderland.
 
I think Di Canio has made the most important comment of all.

Politics and football are nothing to do with one another.

And this is a joke as well. Football is one of *the* most political things outside politics. It shouldn't be, perhaps. But it is. PDC's biography, that git long article on him posted about a million times, those alone make it clear how closely related politics and football are to PDC, and Roman and Italian Football, let alone the wider picture.

What happens on the pitch isn't usually effected by Politics sure, but everything that goes up to that point is intensley political. THE EPL is owned by someone who has been the centre of a political shitstorm for the past three years. The league itself is a political matter discussed on here pretty much every day. Football is seen as the people's game, and as such, is political by default. It is about people, from all walks of life. It is incredibly political.

So for all that I understand people wanting the sentiment to be true, it manifestly isn't.
 
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So for all that I understand people wanting the sentiment to be true, it manifestly isn't.

I'd go further and say Football would be a shadow of what it is without the rivalries, politics, plots and sub plots.
 
I'd go further and say Football would be a shadow of what it is without the rivalries, politics, plots and sub plots.

I would agree. No-one would give a fuck about football, or sport in general, if it was apolitical.

I understand people are just trying to defend PDC, but the "Football is not political" is such a weak argument it just weakens the case if anything, because it weakens part of what makes PDC who he is. The reason he has fire in his belly, the reason he has rallied us all so much, is Presley *because* he has spoken outside of just football. He's appealed to our identity, our history, our social circumstances. What could be more political than that?

Under MON Sunderland was depressingly apolitical. It was about a game of football. Nothing more. It was genuinely about as exciting and emotionally involving as watching a kick about in the park. It started and ended on the pitch. That was it.

PDC has managed to get us all riled up by putting that into the wider, political context of what Sunderland AFC is.
We don't have really anything in football or sporting terms to give a fuck about here, haven't for ages. But we've got a hell of a lot of stuff that speaks to us outside that.
 
Not me mate, I genuinely appreciated their attempts to destabilise my club at a crucial time in our season.

Take the Mags, theyve been a media circus for years & invariably of their own making. We've revelled in it on here often enough. As long as the same treatment is given all round we can have no complaints.
 
It's not really hypocrisy. It's about the most compelling narrative. It's not the media's job to be fair or equitable, it's the media's job to sell advertising space.

Once you realise that you'll see there's no conspiracy against Sunderland.

I'm not claiming it's a conspiracy against Sunderland, I'm saying it's double standards by the press

We seem in agreement ;)
 
Just got back from work but read that piece in the Guardian earlier on. I've read it for 24 years so was depressed to see how low it sunk with that I'll informed and partial shit. You expect it from those who hack the phones of murder victims but not them.

I'd be surprised if there were more than 10 genuine experts on italian fascism in either the original or modern guise in the whole country, so it's surprising to learn that every other sports journalist in England moonlight as an expert on far right politics.
 
The OP shown to be rubbish and made a mockery of within 5 posts.

I don't want to add to his woes so ill leave it at that.
 
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100% this. What a f***ing tool the OP is.

There's been that much personal abuse handed out over the last 72 hours on here that these posts cease to have any power or meaning.

The OP shown to be rubbish and made a mockery of within 5 posts.




I don't want to add to his woes so ill leave it at that.








Not really :cry::cry::cry: And I bloody love all your posts :cry:
 
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The OP shown to be rubbish and made a mockery of within 5 posts.

I don't want to add to his woes so ill leave it at that.

Your clearly a man of principle and compassion.
 
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Just got back from work but read that piece in the Guardian earlier on. I've read it for 24 years so was depressed to see how low it sunk with that I'll informed and partial shit. You expect it from those who hack the phones of murder victims but not them.

I'd be surprised if there were more than 10 genuine experts on italian fascism in either the original or modern guise in the whole country, so it's surprising to learn that every other sports journalist in England moonlight as an expert on far right politics.

Every sports journo in the country knows who the real right wing extremist working as a manager is..But having once made him a hero and lacking any "self-confessed" material he´s untouchable..
 
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