81,670 people claim incapacity benefit 'cos they are alcos, druggies or just fat


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no it aint...speak to the guy weekly and he tells me he has to make do with his state pension and somthing that sounds like disabled hardship allowance or somthing like that.....rekons that the other guy with a bad leg gets more on incapacity

Say so! that's not proof man.
 
We could always kick them off benefits! so they could join the other 2 point odd million that are searching for work I suppose?

Yep, thats what would happen, if you dont got for interviews they threaten to stop your benefits so all they do is demand crisis money
 
no it aint...speak to the guy weekly and he tells me he has to make do with his state pension and somthing that sounds like disabled hardship allowance or somthing like that.....rekons that the other guy with a bad leg gets more on incapacity

Nah mate he's bullshitting you.
 
Is that a just & fair use of your tax pound?
I'm especially interested in listening to what the yoghurt weaving champagne socialists have to say. :-D

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-13152349

Only 1800 people claiming incapacity for obesity. That is hardly worth mentioning.

I don't mind my taxes paying for incapacity benefit. The well should look after the sick. If it is being claimed fraudulently, that is another matter.
 
Only 1800 people claiming incapacity for obesity. That is hardly worth mentioning.

I don't mind my taxes paying for incapacity benefit
. The well should look after the sick. If it is being claimed fraudulently, that is another matter.

don't worry they're not....

UK govt borrowing per year is around the same as benefits and pensions expenditure..... so you're borrowing the money to pay benefits, your taxes are paying the interest on that borrowing. just the interest mind you.
 
Only 1800 people claiming incapacity for obesity. That is hardly worth mentioning.

I don't mind my taxes paying for incapacity benefit. The well should look after the sick. If it is being claimed fraudulently, that is another matter.

Considering the population of the country and the level of immigration it's nothing more than politically motivated demonising of people.
 
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Only 1800 people claiming incapacity for obesity. That is hardly worth mentioning.

I don't mind my taxes paying for incapacity benefit. The well should look after the sick. If it is being claimed fraudulently, that is another matter.

Stop taking sense
 
Does Cameron say how hes going to change all this...how much will it cost...Labour have had a go already in the last ten years...people have been questioned by a panel..
Cameron didnt beat the bankers...still pulling in ridiculous salaries...never heard him trying to restrain boardroom pay...while the rest of us make do with a pay freeze...its all out the pot at the end of the day..
Points scoring for Cameron this...will he want a dole queue of 5 million plus...not likely...papers would have a field day..
 
Does Cameron say how hes going to change all this...how much will it cost...Labour have had a go already in the last ten years...people have been questioned by a panel..
Cameron didnt beat the bankers...still pulling in ridiculous salaries...never heard him trying to restrain boardroom pay...while the rest of us make do with a pay freeze...its all out the pot at the end of the day..
Points scoring for Cameron this...will he want a dole queue of 5 million plus...not likely...papers would have a field day..

Any mention of Fred Goodwin and his benefits? who owns the RBS?
just curious.
 
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Considering the population of the country and the level of immigration it's nothing more than politically motivated demonising of people.

As opposed to racially motivated demonising of people.
 
Good on Cameron for being brave enough to take the inevitable flack.

''One must work and dare if one really wants to live''
- Vincent van Gogh

As true today as ever and will always be.
 
Immigration served it's purpose and was never designed for our benefit
or indeed the Immigrants benefit, they used it to bring down the wage structure and supply cheap labour in the construction and farming industry's
the rich became richer because the paid less for their work force and didn't give a fuck about the consequences.

People have been banging on about immigration since the Edwardian age
the whole country was built and fuelled by immigrants, ever wonder why the north east always ends up with the crumbs from the table?
It's because it was an area populated by immigrants, shipped in to work in the shipyards, coal and Alum mines
, looked down on as second rate citizens
because they were immigrants, that stance still prevails to this day.

The north west suffered the same fate, cotton mills, mining etc, etc.
and politically!! this divide serves the elite classes well, because they know that while the working class point their fingers fight and blame immigrants for all their woes, they are round the back filling their pockets again, it's a great distraction.

Total Bollocks.

How many immigrants worked in the shipyards and mines? I worked and lived around the shipyard and coal industry in the north east for years, never saw or heard of 1 immigrant working there.
 
I became a Tory I think at aged 12, going to my mates house who's Dad didn't work. I knew they got all their money through benefits and the Dad didn't work because he had smoking-related illness to do with breathing. I've never met someone who smoked so much, despite this illness keeping him off work long term, I never saw the fucker without a fag in his mouth.

People don't seem to have any pride, I know some people (quite probably the majority) can't help being on the dole, but there doesn't seem to be any shame in it. I've got mates who would declare with glee that the dole money was about to come in, like they weren't ashamed that they couldn't provide for themselves and were essentially, in a financial sense, still children.

I think that's a retrospective excuse for becoming a Tory - you were a selfish uncaring cunt all your life and just needed a justification - what about all the families you knew who were decent honourable working class people who were proud to work when they had it, didn't take the piss out of the system, and were embarrassed to be unemployed? Did they make you want to be a Tory - didn't f***ing think so...
 
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Total Bollocks.

How many immigrants worked in the shipyards and mines? I worked and lived around the shipyard and coal industry in the north east for years, never saw or heard of 1 immigrant working there.

Apart from the Irish and Welsh ones, the same as the pits.
I know as it's how both sides of my family ended up in Sunderland.

I think that's a retrospective excuse for becoming a Tory - you were a selfish uncaring cunt all your life and just needed a justification - what about all the families you knew who were decent honourable working class people who were proud to work when they had it, didn't take the piss out of the system, and were embarrassed to be unemployed? Did they make you want to be a Tory - didn't f***ing think so...

:oops::oops::oops::oops:

Please read my post on Labour under Blair and Brown losing more manufacturing and manual jobs than Thatcher ever achieved.
Dopey ****.
 
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