8 Days to the Moon and back

Nukehasslefan

Goalkeeper
We were and still are all geared to follow set narratives whether they're truth's, half truth/half fabrications of the truth or lies.
As far as this moon landing goes, none of us outsiders know the whole truth or whether there is any truth is the story told, in print or video or photo.
It all comes down to how each person absorbs themselves into whatever story was told at whatever period of time.
The reality is, people are conditioned to have a pack mentality by following that official narratives that do not tolerate counter arguments, not matter how much logic is applied.
It ends up with mass opinion sort of taking a stance against anyone who dares to question any official narrative. Basically, do not question authority, or else.

Generally we are coaxed into riding along on a wave of emotion attached to many many things. This moon stuff being one such wave.
If anyone questions it, they're nutters or tin foil hat wearing dummies or even intelligent loners in their mothers basement just wanting to be a martyr....and so on.

Any person who argues points against something like this, whoa re not entirely convinced stuff like this happened as it was told, is generally shot down by mass opinion that generally relies on four main points.
1. The videos are proof it happened.
The thing with this mindset is, we know how easy it is to manipulate anything via movies and how movies create a subconscious mindset of a belief in something being legitimate,a s opposed to manipulated.
2. The press conferences of how they achieved it.
Same with this. It's also easy to tell/sell scripted stories by using puppets to portray something as a truth, that may not be the entire truth or the truth at all, equally as much as it being all truth.
3.Too many people were involved. Hundreds of thousands.
Compartmentalisation and mere speculation and exaggeration can easily cater for this storyline narrative.

4. It would've been so hard to fake, it would've been easier just to go.
This appears to be an argument made, more for rubber stamping a supposed achievement and making that achievement as the doable whilst the supposed fakery was impossible.
Clearly we are almost bullied into acceptance without knowing, either way.
The issue is whether you believe it all happened in its entirety as to what you were schooled into or whether you think most of it is true or none of it. No outsider, other than those who were privy to the actual reality of whatever it was as a set up can argue anything as their fact. It comes down to mass opinion verses minority opinion and we all know mass opinion takes precedence, every time, unless any conspiracy theory becomes a conspiracy, fact.

There's a myriad of reasons why it's all true and a myriad of reasons why it's all fake.
One thing for sure. It...and conspiracies like it, divides opinion unequally but also creates bad feeling between those that go with it and those who go against it, with those on the fence managing to see both points but not wanting to upset the apple cart.
 

Rick O Shea

Winger
I’d like to know why we have effectively mothballed the moon when we could have done so much more

We have gone further out to Mars and Saturn for example but neglected another world easily within reach

By now it should be inhabited
I guess the oil crisis in the 70's and the fact NASA was consuming 5% of the federal budget would be painful even for a country as economically powerful as the US. Once the momentum was lost it probably became easier not to go.

A bit like supersonic air travel.

And our FA cup win was only 4 years away :eek:, its ancient bloody history now:cry:
Mags will be along soon saying that was faked.............
 

rapscallion

Winger
The biggest flaw in the whole conspiracy bullshit is the Russians. The Cold War at that point had nearly incinerated the World at least twice. The Soviet Space Program was a huge source of pride and propaganda, if the Americans had somehow faked it and the Russians could prove it they would have broken their necks to call it out. It would have been possibly the biggest propaganda coup in history, how could anyone trust the Americans after that? They'd still be dining out on it now. They didn't.


I watched a video a few years ago where an expert in modern special effects proved that they couldn't have faked it, the live feed etc. was impossible with 60s equipment. It was actually easier to send the fuckers there. :lol:
Then again, Kubrick did outfit Danny in The Shining with a meticulously and elaborately woven Apollo 11 gansey, for one of his textbook screen nods..
 

Nukehasslefan

Goalkeeper
Yet again though, the Russians said nowt about it.
Maybe they were doing their own dog and pony show with the USA saying nothing. Possible, right?
I know we're all supposed to be at loggerheads around the world but everyone seems awfully friendly, garden fence gossiping when it suits and then throwing out threats when the time suits.

Maybe it's all for one and one for all, high up in the real hierarchy of life with governments and such just a pyramid of puppets controlling the bigger stack below...and so on.

Possible?
 

muggboots

Striker
Maybe they were doing their own dog and pony show with the USA saying nothing. Possible, right?
I know we're all supposed to be at loggerheads around the world but everyone seems awfully friendly, garden fence gossiping when it suits and then throwing out threats when the time suits.

Maybe it's all for one and one for all, high up in the real hierarchy of life with governments and such just a pyramid of puppets controlling the bigger stack below...and so on.

Possible?
Don't be fucking daft.
 

Churchlanelad

Full Back
We were and still are all geared to follow set narratives whether they're truth's, half truth/half fabrications of the truth or lies.
As far as this moon landing goes, none of us outsiders know the whole truth or whether there is any truth is the story told, in print or video or photo.
It all comes down to how each person absorbs themselves into whatever story was told at whatever period of time.
The reality is, people are conditioned to have a pack mentality by following that official narratives that do not tolerate counter arguments, not matter how much logic is applied.
It ends up with mass opinion sort of taking a stance against anyone who dares to question any official narrative. Basically, do not question authority, or else.

Generally we are coaxed into riding along on a wave of emotion attached to many many things. This moon stuff being one such wave.
If anyone questions it, they're nutters or tin foil hat wearing dummies or even intelligent loners in their mothers basement just wanting to be a martyr....and so on.

Any person who argues points against something like this, whoa re not entirely convinced stuff like this happened as it was told, is generally shot down by mass opinion that generally relies on four main points.
1. The videos are proof it happened.
The thing with this mindset is, we know how easy it is to manipulate anything via movies and how movies create a subconscious mindset of a belief in something being legitimate,a s opposed to manipulated.
2. The press conferences of how they achieved it.
Same with this. It's also easy to tell/sell scripted stories by using puppets to portray something as a truth, that may not be the entire truth or the truth at all, equally as much as it being all truth.
3.Too many people were involved. Hundreds of thousands.
Compartmentalisation and mere speculation and exaggeration can easily cater for this storyline narrative.

4. It would've been so hard to fake, it would've been easier just to go.
This appears to be an argument made, more for rubber stamping a supposed achievement and making that achievement as the doable whilst the supposed fakery was impossible.
Clearly we are almost bullied into acceptance without knowing, either way.
The issue is whether you believe it all happened in its entirety as to what you were schooled into or whether you think most of it is true or none of it. No outsider, other than those who were privy to the actual reality of whatever it was as a set up can argue anything as their fact. It comes down to mass opinion verses minority opinion and we all know mass opinion takes precedence, every time, unless any conspiracy theory becomes a conspiracy, fact.

There's a myriad of reasons why it's all true and a myriad of reasons why it's all fake.
One thing for sure. It...and conspiracies like it, divides opinion unequally but also creates bad feeling between those that go with it and those who go against it, with those on the fence managing to see both points but not wanting to upset the apple cart.
What! Thunderbirds were responsible for the fakery?
 

rickopooly

Winger
After NASA beat the Soviets to the Moon, and went back a few times, they realised it cost too much and just wasn't sustainable. The Apollo programmes were mothballed and the money went on other things. There are also arguments that it was a great distraction from Vietnam and once the Americans began to withdraw, the Apollo programmes didn't serve as propaganda anymore.

We have to remember how much it cost to put two blokes on the moon for less than a day. In the meantime humans have put multiple space stations into orbit, created a reusable space plane, invented countless items we all use today which came from space programmes and so forth.

I'd love to see humans back on the Moon or even on Mars, if NASA manage to follow their proposed plans it won't be that long until it happens.
A distraction from Vietnam? Money was thrown at that war, no amount more would have made any difference.
 

snelleton

Striker
apart from space travel can anyone name another venture where technology has gone backwards?
Matresses. They used to tell you to change your matress every 10 years. Now it's every 8. Are we supposed to believe that technology has gone backwards or manufacturers are ripping us off. Got to be one of the two.
 

Hooky

Central Defender
apart from space travel can anyone name another venture where technology has gone backwards?
It hasn't gone backwards, its just the priorities have changed. That's like saying music technology has gone backwards because we don't use tapes any more.
 
A distraction from Vietnam? Money was thrown at that war, no amount more would have made any difference.
Yeah sorry, looks like that bit I got the wrong way round. NASA was competing with the military for funding and the war impacted their share of the federal budget.

apart from space travel can anyone name another venture where technology has gone backwards?
The shuttle could carry a slightly reduced payload to SaturnV and it was partially reusable. Priorities changed rather than technology going backward.
 
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parm

Winger
take our old pal richard branson , for years he`s been promising the billionaire class space travel , in 5 years time we will be up and running , 5 years comes and goes , nothing , always just around the corner :cool:
 

Raby Mackem

Full Back
Cracking stuff, have just got round to watching it. Vaguely remember it I was 8 at the time. Really hope it was not a fake.
 
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0verlord44

Goalkeeper
You don’t have to read too far into the Apollo program and the space race in general to see the many challenges that were overcame that led to the lunar missions.

Truly a magnificent achievement.
 

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