TheWanderer
Striker
Story in this mornings news, sickening, what the fuck is happening to this country?
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Story in this mornings news, sickening, what the fuck is happening to this country?
One persons actions don't reflect the country.
Shocking either way.
no expert mate but i'm sure violent crime compared to years gone by is down, maybe mate just maybe the reporting of violent crime and the awareness of said violence by ordinary decent folk is increasing there.
TheWanderer said:these stories are becoming more common though mate, regardless if these stories make the press, I know fine well many more do not. The news last night consisted of more stabbing and murder stories than not.
no expert mate but i'm sure violent crime compared to years gone by is down, maybe mate just maybe the reporting of violent crime and the awareness of said violence by ordinary decent folk is increasing there.
Is it not also the nature/extent of the violence that's changed though, in particular the nonchalant use of knives without any apparent concern for the consequences, for the perpetrator as well as the victim? So many young people seem to have so little regard for their own lives that a lifetime in custody doesn't seem a very unattractive option.
Thinking back to my own youth, people always fought, and got jumped for no apparent reason, but, although I knew people who took a pasting, I certainly don't remember anyone being stabbed. I also think attitudes have deteriorated to the extent that a minor disagreement which might previously have justified a bit of a slap frequently seems to be settled with a knife, often with considerable pre-meditation.
The idea that nonchalant use of knives is new is just cockrot. Knives were flying about in the 80s and 90s when I was a kiddiewink. Anybody who grew up in the 50s, 60s and 70s will tell you the same if they're being honest. "Brighton Rock" was published in 1938 FFS.
The only difference is that today we have 24 hour telly news analysing the minutiae and print media dominated by someone with a vested interest in keeping everybody indoors in the evening.
Secularism, capitalism and moral relativism. These have challenged the older ideological structures of the 19th century which kept soceity in order. That said, this was usally done at the cost of massive injustice and cruelty on a systematic scale which wasn't reported because it was accepted as being the politcal and social status qou.
The average indiviudal has far more rights and oppurtunitites and is far safer these days, but it's not in the media's interest to report that.
I wouldn't say society has got worse at all. Pick up any newspaper from the 1890's, 1930's, 1950's etc and you will see numerous horrible violent acts committed against children. I'd say it was many many many times worse in Victorian times. Still doesn't make it any less shocking though.
A teenager has been arrested after a four-year-old girl was left with facial injuries when a brick was thrown through a minibus window.
The girl's father, 23, had confronted a group of about 10 youths for kicking a ball at his vehicle on Hildyard Street, Grimsby, on Thursday, police said.
The half brick was thrown as he tried to drive away and came through a window, hitting the child in the face.
A 17-year-old boy has been arrested, police said.
The girl suffered nasty injuries, police said, including a lost top front tooth, a fractured nose and swollen lip.
Police are appealing for more witnesses to come forward.
Insp Glen Munson said: "There were a number of people there, not to mention friends or family of those involved, who have more than likely witnessed the incident first hand or been told about it.
"I would ask for these people to come forward either directly or anonymously to help our investigation."