Who do you think was bullied? Maybe Vince or Moeen?
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GordonMuchallNo1Fan
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Vast majority of them. Mentally and physically weak, bullied all over.
Well 4 of them played tonight. And arguing Cook and Anderson are mentally weak is a bit harsh. Stoneman also got plaudits for his courage, Malan batted well and Overton showed a lot of grit with bat and ball
Sharpshooter
Midfield
Its become fashionable to bash England's test side of late.
I suspect however when they inevitably wallop India and Pakistan this summer the same people criticising them will be shouting from the rooftops what an awesome side they are again.
I suspect however when they inevitably wallop India and Pakistan this summer the same people criticising them will be shouting from the rooftops what an awesome side they are again.
Silly Point
Striker
I can tell you now I will not be. Very happy to enjoy this and praise the one day side but the Test lot have a lot to do to get back into credit with me, but hope we beat India as I can't stand them.
great (series) win. surprised with the lack of urgency from the aussies at the end but happy to put it down to our good bowling and tactics....
bit of a fizzer for australia day in adelaide on friday now that we've won the series.... oh dear, how sad, never mind
bit of a fizzer for australia day in adelaide on friday now that we've won the series.... oh dear, how sad, never mind
smoker
Striker
Like we 'walloped' Pakistan 2-2 at home in 2016?
I think cricket fans are sensible enough to put beating India, notoriously poor outside the SC, into context.
I refuse to believe Wood, Plunkett and Rashid wouldn't have improved that test squad. It feels like we are deliberately prioritising ODI stuff over test ATM.
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B
Brexit
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TV technology doesn't work for 'did it carry' incidents.
Voice of fair play
Striker
Just think we beating the Aussies in their own back yard by playing aggressive entertaining cricket.
Yet some thought we should be resting some of our better players!!
This one day side has the potential to be our best side for a long long time, we need to be positive about it
With Stokes to come back these players ,especially the batsman are at their peak
Yet some thought we should be resting some of our better players!!
This one day side has the potential to be our best side for a long long time, we need to be positive about it
With Stokes to come back these players ,especially the batsman are at their peak
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GordonMuchallNo1Fan
Striker
Folk got carried away with Cook and his innings, I thought overall he was very poor. Anderson was poor, just not as bad as Broad. Stoneman, Vince done nothing for me either. Throw in a bit of aggression and it's amazing what it can do for team morale. I said at the start of the series it was a bang average squad, remained so during the series and a lot of them need scattering..... thanks for your service but time to step aside.
Well done today England, ruthless and aggressive, the way it should be regardless of the format
rightly so, they aren't very good
Discopants91
Striker
That's 18 wins in the last 21 now.
Must be favourites for the World Cup next year.
Must be favourites for the World Cup next year.
Anderson was poor? He bowled himself into the ground and averaged mid 20s
Bri
Striker
I don't see the point of talking about Wood. He couldn't have played because he was injured and if he'd been fit he would have played.
Woakes has been so good in these games but that's because he's properly match fight and in form, it's clear now that he wasn't during the Test series.
Hales and Rashid .... none of us could understand why they were omitted from the squad.
Comeback_Kenwyne
Striker
Buttler was broken by test cricket when he was last in the team.
Wood has looked meek as fuck at time in his test career. He has been bullied by some batsmen.
Plunkett - fuck knows it was so long ago, but he hardly set the world alight.
I'm not saying there isn't a case for including them in the picture. I'm saying it's a completely different game, with a different mentality, and you could have had every Englishman you wanted fit for that series, with all of them the selectors ignored involved, including Ben Stokes, and the Aussies would still have won comfortably because they're better than us. And they'd have bullied us too.
The idea Steve Smith, a batsman for the ages, couldn't have demolished and bullied the terrifying Mark Wood is for the birds. Definitely a bit of local partisanship here clouding your vision.
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I agree with all of that
I sum it up with
We are a couple of batsmen short
They have the better bowlers for the conditions
Comeback_Kenwyne
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Dan The Man
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3/1 on skybet with the Aussies 4/1
rentaghost
Striker
Its bizarre man - he had a bad foot injury and couldn't play. Although I would have selected Plunkett, his fitness was always the concern and the fact that he has broken down after bowling only 20 overs of the ODI's sort of proves the selectors point. Wood and Plunkett would have had to bowl 15 overs a day and do it on consecutive days and then for consecutive tests. One was injured at the start anyway and the other always has worries about sustained fitness.
I don't agree with you about Hales though, plenty agreed with his non selection. At test level you bowl a 4th stump line to him and he nicks off as he did in SA. If in the unlikely event he gets through it he isn't very good against the short, aggressive stuff either. I do agree on Rashid though.
And having to bat with slip fielders and quick bowlers bowling a consistently accurate 4th stump line?
Comeback_Kenwyne
Striker
Aye, that too. Besides, people were generally lining up Hales instead of Malan. Pretty fair assumption that he wouldn't have done is well imo.
We lack a spinner too. And though they are a couple of batsmen short too, Smith massively outplayed Root.
But in a nutshell, this.
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