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He needs to cut his losses and fuck off, but no, he'll try to screw every last penny out of the club.
Fuck the consequences of where that will put us.
If he cares as much as he said in the statement after the "takeover" fell through, he'd be put what's owed to him to one side, and put incoming transfer fees into buying players to get us promoted, not giving grayson fuck all and expecting him to perform miracles.
The debt is owed to him, he's made the mistakes, why should we pay for his incompetence?

All emotion, zero logic.
 
Because we over 100m in debt and Short is sick of giving HIS money to managers who waste it.

Only it seems he didnt give his money to anybody, it looks awfully like he simply hocked the club up to the eyeballs with debt and loans. As for those managers, that would be the managers that he appointed yes? You would think that by pure chance if he appointed enough managers that eventually one would work out, or maybe just maybe it was not the managers all along?
 
Ellis Short initially Was funding the club by 20 million a year,a loan Was taken out for £120 million in the name of Sunderland AFC. Ellis Short no longer subsidises the club.

-£180M in debt + £35M = -£145M

Thats still massively in debt
Our debtt It's not that much
 
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People are so naive, if Sunderland were losing money Short would have sold up in the summer... He knew fine well he could make more money leaching from the club.

Short is making millions out of this club while the fans have to put up with paying top money to watch championship football, Short is asset stripping any player of value while replacing them with league 1 players... Well guess where that'll get us.
 
the vast majority of anything incoming is going to service the huge financial shite we've managed to lumber ourselves in. best get used to the 'penny pinching'

To be fair we havent lumbered ourselves with any financial shite, its all the great work of our owner.
 
Some people will believe everything they are told anarl.
Aye your right we have a surplus of £100 million just sitting around from last season:rolleyes:. Look at the facts we made an operating loss of around 30 million last season. That's in the public domain as well. I'm not defending Short he has put us in a right mess but facts are facts we have got fuck all to spend unless we want to risk the existence of the club................and don't think it can't happen look at Rangers.
 
Grow up you muppet. He is giving you facts. The fact you don't like them and are reacting the way you are suggests you have the mental age of a 11 year old or are as thick as pig shit...........which one is it?
Shut up kevin

WE HAVE NO MONEY......WE ARE IN £110 MILLIONS POUNDS WORTH OF DEBT.................clear enough for ya:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::lol:
Who's fault is that?
 
This shit is made way to complicated...Short is a failure at being a football chairman. He clearly fucked up by not replacing Nial Quinn with a football man..

He never had vision enough to find a manager that fit Sunderland, never established any wage structure or yearly budget to build a solid foundation. In my opinion, his only experience with sports was the American version where the money is split evenly with every team and there's no relegation...

He was here for the money and had zero interest or knowledge on how to run an English Premier Club. He shit the bed and instead of calling for help, he just kicked the shitty sheets to the end of the bed...
 
Aye your right we have a surplus of £100 million just sitting around from last season:rolleyes:. Look at the facts we made an operating loss of around 30 million last season. That's in the public domain as well. I'm not defending Short he has put us in a right mess but facts are facts we have got fuck all to spend unless we want to risk the existence of the club................and don't think it can't happen look at Rangers.
The public domain hahahaaha.
 
So another fuck up then... Its been on Sky today with Klopp going on about unfair FFP is...Barca ,Man city, etc

There were a lot of people saying this FFP was just a ruse to ensure the worlds top teams stayed up top, and that the lesser clubs would never be able to compete financially. It's a rigged game.
 
People are so naive, if Sunderland were losing money Short would have sold up in the summer... He knew fine well he could make more money leaching from the club.

Short is making millions out of this club while the fans have to put up with paying top money to watch championship football, Short is asset stripping any player of value while replacing them with league 1 players... Well guess where that'll get us.

Can you provide detailed accounts as to how much money is being taken out of the club by Short?
 
Is that what you would do if you were the thick end of a hundred million quid in the red in a business deal? Just say fuck it and walk away?

I doubt it.
If I was a billionaire with numerous other businesses to get that sort of money anyway, aye. If it would leave me f***ing destitute, no.
Which one do you reckon short is?
 
If I was a billionaire with numerous other businesses to get that sort of money anyway, aye. If it would leave me f***ing destitute, no.
Which one do you reckon short is?

The first one, of course

He's also a business man and looks at things from a business perspective, you're clearly looking at one from a fans viewpoint

Walk away 100 million down, lmao, of course you would
 
Im not in the slightest surprised and before window opened i predicted maybe £50m would come in from sales and maybe £12m out.
 
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