1985 milk cup


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me and everyone around me thought we'd scored after a minute, went wild until we realised the ball had gone over the bar.

Pretty shit after that, we never fully got going, awful penalty, their back 4 bossed the game, flukey goal but we sang louder than them:lol:

Lived in Norwich at the time so for the next few months a lot of shops had the game on tellys in shop windows:evil:
 
Absolutely gutted at the outcome. Only time I have cried at at a match. Just remember all the Sunderland fans singing at the end constantly "We love you Sunderland, we do".

As for the day itself, just seemed to be SAFC fans everywhere, vastly outnumbering Norwich. Remember before the game outside Wembley a Norwich fan asking for a photo with me "to show there is no hard feelings."

Remember how vast Wembley looked. Remember the sky diver crashing into the roof. Remember David Corner's abysmal defending for their goal, and the penalty miss not long after. We played poorly that day and deserved to lose.

They had a young Steve Bruce in the team then from memory and an old Mick Channon.
 
Got one of the 'specials' from the station at about 23:00. The polis confiscated everyones booze at the top of the stairs. Went for a wander along the train about 2 hours after leaving Sunderland and opened one carriage door to be confronted by loads of lads asleep in all sorts of positions (tables, floor & luggage racks) with half full cans and bottles dangling precariously from their hands. Copper at the end of the carriage asked me if I wanted to buy a slab of beer for £3. :eek:

We had a mass footy game in the car park outside. A few dozen Norwich turned up and joined in splitting themselves between the two teams. They got booted all over. Even by players on the same side as them.

On the way back the train stopped in Doncaster and on the platform was a bar. 75% of the train emptied within a minute and piled into said bar. Coppers were trying without much success to keep everyone away from the bar. In the end they gave up.
 
Absolutely gutted at the outcome. Only time I have cried at at a match. Just remember all the Sunderland fans singing at the end constantly "We love you Sunderland, we do".

As for the day itself, just seemed to be SAFC fans everywhere, vastly outnumbering Norwich. Remember before the game outside Wembley a Norwich fan asking for a photo with me "to show there is no hard feelings."

Remember how vast Wembley looked. Remember the sky diver crashing into the roof. Remember David Corner's abysmal defending for their goal, and the penalty miss not long after. We played poorly that day and deserved to lose.

They had a young Steve Bruce in the team then from memory and an old Mick Channon.

Aye I remember that:lol:

I can remember of all the people in Wembley being stood right next to a lad from my year at school.

I can remember the whole end literally bouncing up and down.

"Are you watching on the box newcastle newcastle...."

And I can remember a banner saying "Black cats eat canaries":lol: - I honestly dont think I'd heard us referred to as the Black cats before that.

Another class day once again spoiled by the result.
 
Absolutely gutted at the outcome. Only time I have cried at at a match. Just remember all the Sunderland fans singing at the end constantly "We love you Sunderland, we do".

As for the day itself, just seemed to be SAFC fans everywhere, vastly outnumbering Norwich. Remember before the game outside Wembley a Norwich fan asking for a photo with me "to show there is no hard feelings."

Remember how vast Wembley looked. Remember the sky diver crashing into the roof. Remember David Corner's abysmal defending for their goal, and the penalty miss not long after. We played poorly that day and deserved to lose.

They had a young Steve Bruce in the team then from memory and an old Mick Channon.
Remember how good Sunderland fans were at the end of match ,stopping and applauding Norwich doesn't happen now as soon as the loosing fans here the whistle they feck off ,not sunderland
 
Got one of the 'specials' from the station at about 23:00. The polis confiscated everyones booze at the top of the stairs. Went for a wander along the train about 2 hours after leaving Sunderland and opened one carriage door to be confronted by loads of lads asleep in all sorts of positions (tables, floor & luggage racks) with half full cans and bottles dangling precariously from their hands. Copper at the end of the carriage asked me if I wanted to buy a slab of beer for £3. :eek:

We had a mass footy game in the car park outside. A few dozen Norwich turned up and joined in splitting themselves between the two teams. They got booted all over. Even by players on the same side as them.

On the way back the train stopped in Doncaster and on the platform was a bar. 75% of the train emptied within a minute and piled into said bar. Coppers were trying without much success to keep everyone away from the bar. In the end they gave up.

:lol:
 
Remember how good Sunderland fans were at the end of match ,stopping and applauding Norwich doesn't happen now as soon as the loosing fans here the whistle they feck off ,not sunderland

Aye the friendly final, and it was, do we still play for a friendly trophy or something?
 
Got there in the end, on the train laid on special for the occasion which arrived late so missed the first 5 or so minutes, my first trip to Wembley, enjoyed the day.
 
Got the coach down with my Dad. I was 10 at the time. Coach was running too late to wait for it to park up so walked the last mile. At the toilets when the goal went in so missed that. Didn't have a clue where the coach was parked and never found it. Managed to get a couple of spare seats on another local bus. Got dropped off about 2 mile from home at midnight and walked the rest. Woke up for school next day to see Dennis Taylor had won the world snooker chmpionships in that classic v Steve Davis.
 
Went with 3 mates in nice red and white Nissan Sylvia that one of them (who was a manager of a car group) put on the road just for the occasion. Stopped at some other mates for the weekend in Chessington and had a canny swallow.
Lovely yellow programme in my drawer even now.
Great weekend, and shit result, but used to that with us, as, apart from 73 we had the same in 1990 (Swindon play off), 1992 (Liverpool fa cup final), and the famous 1998 game v Charlton.
Same old same old unfortunately but still hoping to get to new Wembley regardless.
 
Stayed in a hotel in Cricklewood, stepped out early Sunday morn for the papers and there was a Sunderland supporter asleep in the garden :lol:

Had a bizarre night out, first in a WMC which many SAFC fans had invaded then a nightclub called the Production Village which they certainly hadn't found
 
Was only 13 at the time, went to the game with my dad on one of the coaches.
The bus was attacked outside Luton with bricks thrown and windows smashed etc. Arrived at Wembley just before kick off. Incredible atmosphere but a poor game. Gutted at the end. Bus broke down on way home so stuck at services for hours waiting for a replacement. Arrived home early hours of monday morning but got the day off school.
 
I was on a course last Monday and the fella running it was a Norwich fan. First thing he wanted to talk about (before the match we'd just played out) was 1985.

He was about late 40s so guessing he was a kid at the time.

Then we were talking about the Friendship Cup, etc. 10 other people on the course taking notes diligently :lol:
 
I remember a parachutist hitting the roof and how good both sets of fans got on. The game i have tried to blank out it was so shit!
 
Was 17 at the time stayed the night before in a hotel next to Heathrow. Great weekend apart from the game. The daft thing that sticks in my mind was I actually thought we would win ! Stupid young bugger that I was.:roll
 
1984/85 Milk Cup Run


Sunderland 2 v 1 Crystal Palace
Tuesday 25 September 1984, Roker Park
Milk Cup Second Round (1st leg) 11,696


Whilst Sunderland won this match it was Stan Cummins, the former Roker favourite, who must have wondered what Black Cat had crossed his path, as he missed some glorious chances to put the game The Eagles way. As it was two Roger Wylde goals got Sunderland off to a winning start, with a tricky second leg in South London to follow.

Sunderland: Turner, Venison, Daniel, Bennett, Chisholm, Elliott, Berry, Wylde, Gayle, Pickering, Walker Sub: West
Crystal Palace: Wood, Locke, Sparrow, Stebbing, Whyte, Cannon, Irvine, Murphy, Maloney, Nicholas, Cummins
Referee: T Mills (Barnsley)


Crystal Palace 0 v 0 Sunderland
Wednesday 10 October 1984, Selhurst Park
Milk Cup Second ~Round (2nd leg) 6,871


After this game Stan Cummins re-signed for Sunderland, but as he was now cup tied he would play no part in the remainder of the competition. It was job done as far as Sunderland were concerned as the red and whites soaked up the pressure to advance to the 3rd round.

Crystal Palace: Wood, Hughton, Sparrow, Stebbing (Mahoney), Whyte, Cannon, Irvine, Murphy, Aylott, Nicholas, Cummins
Sunderland: Turner, Venison, Daniel, Bennett, Chisholm, Atkinson (West), Berry, Gayle, Wylde, Pickering, Walker


Nottingham Forest 1 v 1 Sunderland
Wednesday 31 October 1984, City Ground
Milk Cup 3rd Round 14,291


Nottingham Forest then managed by ex Roker legend Brian Clough had a brilliant record in this competition, with 2 previous wins in the late 1970's. Sunderland played well and could easily have nicked it. A David Hodgson goal cancelled out Christie’s for the home side and ensured that Forest would go to Wearside for what promised to be a white hot tie.

Nottingham Forest: Sutton, Gunn (Wigley), Swain, Metgod, Fairclough, Bowyer, Mills, Hodge, Christie, Davenport, Walsh
Sunderland: Turner, Daniel, Pickering, Chisholm, Elliott, Berry, Gayle, Wylde (West), Venison, Proctor, Hodgson


Sunderland 1 v 0 Nottingham Forest (After Extra Time)
Tuesday 6 November 1984, Roker Park
Milk Cup 3rd Round Replay 23,184


On an electric night at Roker Park a game which started off slowly just got better and better. With no score after 90 minutes it took an absolutely spectacular Roker End blockbuster from Howard Gayle to seal a win and a 4rth round tie with Spurs.

Sunderland: Turner, Venison, Daniel, Bennett, Elliott, Berry, Hodgson, Gayle, Wylde (West), Proctor, Walker
Nottingham Forest: Sutton, Mills, Swain, Metgod, Fairclough, Bowyer, Wigley, Hodge, Raynor, Riley, Walsh


Sunderland 0 v 0 Tottenham Hotspur
Wednesday 21 November 1984, Roker Park
Milk Cup 4rth Round 27,421


Tottenham Hotspur approached this tie like a European game, determined to come away with at least a draw. That they managed and in truth if it hadn’t been for Chris Turners heroics Spurs would have been through at the first time of asking. A replay was not eagerly anticipated on Wearside as we looked to be heading out.

Sunderland: Turner, Venison, Pickering, Bennett, Chisholm, Berry, Hodgson, Gayle (Wylde), West, Proctor, Walker
Tottenham Hotspur: Clemence, Stevens, Mabbutt, Roberts, Miller, Perryman, Chiedozie, Falco, Allen, Hoddle, Hazard Sub: Hughton


Tottenham Hotspur 1 v 2 Sunderland
Wednesday 5 December 1984, White Hart Lane
Milk Cup 4rth Round Replay 25,835


This was one of those games that you remember for the rest of your life. Quite simply Sunderland, and in particular Chris Turner, were superb. Given no hope before the game a Chris Turner penalty save from Graham Roberts (he also scored another) left the red and whites victorious following smash and grab goals from Chisholm and Walker. Crowd trouble marred the after the match celebrations as Wearside fans ran the gauntlet in the surrounding streets with at least one fan bottled.

Tottenham Hotspur: Clemence, Stevens, Hughton, Roberts, Miller, Perryman, Chiedozie, Falco, Allen (Mabbutt), Hoddle, Hazard
Sunderland: Turner, Venison, Daniel, Bennett, Chisholm, Elliott, Berry, Gayle, Hodgson (West), Proctor, Walker


Watford 0 v 1 Sunderland
Wednesday 23 January 1985, Vicarage Road
Milk Cup 5th Round 22,591


Before the match it was reported that Watford had not lost a midweek home cup tie for years, and with injuries and suspensions taking their toll it was in truth a scratch Sunderland side which took to the field on a freezing cold night. Sunderland played well, and a freak goal saw a Clive Walker shot hit Nick Pickering on the back and loop into the net, with the Watford keeper stranded. The travelling red and whites, of which there were many, went wild, and the long trip home passed in a flash.

Watford: Coton, Sinnott, Rostron, Taylor, Terry, McClelland, Sterling (Callaghan), Blissett, Reilly, Jackett, Barnes
Sunderland: Turner, Venison, Pickering, Corner, Chisholm, Elliott, Cooke, Berry (Wallace), West, Daniel, Walker


Sunderland 2 v 0 Chelsea
Wednesday 13 February 1985, Roker Park
Milk Cup Semi Final (1st leg) 32,440


After Chelsea’s marathon games with Sheffield Wednesday, Sunderland eagerly awaited the arrival of the West London team in the semi final. The 2 legs were infamously marred by severe crowd trouble both inside and outside the ground with dozens of arrests, and it was a hostile atmosphere that greeted both teams. Gary Bennett played superbly, initially in midfield and then in defence, as 2 Colin West goals sealed the tie in Wearside's favour.

Sunderland: Turner, Venison, Pickering, Bennett, Chisholm, Elliott, Hodgson, Berry, West, Daniel, Walker Sub: Wallace
Chelsea: Niedzwieki, Lee, Jones, Pates, McLoughlan (Jasper), Cannoville, Bumstead, Nevin, Spackman, Dixon, Thomas

Chelsea 2 v 3 Sunderland
Monday 4 March 1985, Stamford Bridge
Milk Cup Semi Final (2nd leg) 38,440


This is one of those famous games that everyone says "were you there". A travelling contingent of 8,000 saw the game start disappointingly as David Speedie scored after a mere 6 minutes. Sunderland were on the rack.

However the red and whites dusted themselves off and went about dismantling Chelsea with David Hodgson playing perhaps his best game for Sunderland. Goals from Clive Walker, serious crowd disorder, Colin West's strike whilst the Police were chasing an encroaching spectator across the pitch; this game had the lot. A Pat Nevin goal late on was meaningless for Chelsea. Sunderland were at Wembley.

Sunderland: Turner, Venison, Pickering, Bennett, Chisholm, Elliott, Hodgson, Berry, West, Daniel (Wallace), Walker
Chelsea: Niedzwieki, Jones, Rougvie, Pates, Jasper (Cannoville), Bumstead, Nevin, Spackman, Dixon, Speedie, Thomas


Norwich City 1 v 0 Sunderland
Sunday 24 March 1985, Wembley Stadium
Milk Cup Final, 100,000 - £860,935


It was a sad indictment on Sunderland that in the programme notes at Wembley Sunderland were now referred to as "one of the less fashionable clubs". How far the mighty had fallen.

Having beaten Norwich City 3 v 1 the week before in the league meeting at Carrow Road, hopes were high of a repeat performance at The Twin Towers. Furthermore Sunderland's Assistant Manager Frank Burrows, acquired from Southampton, had tasted League Cup success, famously with Swindon Town, who had beaten Arsenal in 1969. Hopefully this was a good omen.

There was a pre match shock for the Sunderland faithful as Colin West, a scorer in the semi final, wasn’t even named on the bench.

The game turned out to be poor and a major disappointment to the Roker Roar which was visible populating almost every section of the ground. The second Sunday final in Wembley's history saw a bizarre Gordon Chisholm own goal settle a drab affair, with Clive Walker famously missing a penalty after Dennis Van Wijk had handled in the box; the first in an English Club Wembley final.

There were a couple of interesting footnotes to the final. Of the 24 players chosen to represent the 2 sides only 5 weren’t English. Of those 5 only 2 weren’t British.

Secondly the occasion became known as “The Friendly Final” due to the behaviour of both sets of fans, particularly those from the North East who took another cruel defeat with good humour and stoicism.

Sunderland: Turner, Venison, Pickering, Bennett, Chisholm, Corner (Gayle), Daniel, Wallace, Hodgson, Berry, Walker
Norwich City: Woods, Haylock, Van Wijk, Bruce, Mendham, Watson, Barham, Channon, Deehan, Hartford, Donowa Sub: Devine
 
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