1963-64 Team Profiles



NormanDee said:
The three keepers that went to Mexico were Banks, Bonetti and Alex Stepney. You are right Gordon West declined to go and at the time was considered to be number 2 behind Banks and ahead of Bonetti.
Monty was very unlucky to be left behind especially as he was considered a far better keeper than Stepney. Monty was in the "reserve" group that were on standby. I think Peter Shilton was also in the original provisional squad but did not make the final squad. My recollection at the time (I was 16) is that Stepney came from nowhere to be included. I remember the Look North presenter (Mike Neville ?) saying Monty was by far a better goalie than Stepney.
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A very young Joe Corrigan was also included in the original 44

Always thought Bonetti got a lot of undeserved stick over this. True, he should have done better, but my dad always blamed Ramsey for not giving him enough game time prior to this, reckoned he looked like a startled rabbit
 
Fats said:
A very young Joe Corrigan was also included in the original 44

Always thought Bonetti got a lot of undeserved stick over this. True, he should have done better, but my dad always blamed Ramsey for not giving him enough game time prior to this, reckoned he looked like a startled rabbit
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I agree. From what I remember of that game against West Germany I still can't work out how those giants Uwe Seeler (5ft 7ins) and Gerd Muller (5ft 7ins) won so much in the air against Moore and Labone.
 
Classy player was George, scored both goals in my first game.

I assumed these where taken from the Echo but I noticed it says Herald Sport. Where was that published? And what cup are they referring to?
 
gluepot said:
Classy player was George, scored both goals in my first game.

I assumed these where taken from the Echo but I noticed it says Herald Sport. Where was that published? And what cup are they referring to?
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After 59 years I am sorry I don't remember, but looking at the back of one of the profiles it mentions Charles Bray who worked for the Daily Herald upto 1964. My parents being good socialists used to get the Daily Herald, so I plump for it for where the profiles come from.
redgauntlet said:
Was he David Herd? I think he scord for Arsenal against us in the 3rd round of the FA Cup in 1961 we won 2-1 goals from Stan Anderson, gate 58,000. My first FA Cup game.
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I was wrong David George Herd was not George's brother.
 
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Black Dog said:
After 59 years I am sorry I don't remember, but looking at the back of one of the profiles it mentions Charles Bray who worked for the Daily Herald upto 1964. My parents being good socialists used to get the Daily Herald, so I plump for it for where the profiles come from.

I was wrong David George Herd was not George's brother.
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I knew i hadn’t heard of it but wasn’t sure.
gluepot said:
Classy player was George, scored both goals in my first game.

I assumed these where taken from the Echo but I noticed it says Herald Sport. Where was that published? And what cup are they referring to?
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Daily Herald, one of the pre- red tops if it had survived. Think it went c1964.
 
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Black Dog said:
Yes was relaunched as 'The Sun' pre Aussie was the voice of the labour party. We did not move onto the stun.
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Yes, I actualy bought the first copy then realised it was the Mail with tits. Indi actually know a page three girl, still do do, the day she appeared her mother said ”Isn’t she like me” my wife was there, ai passed on that.
 
Wasn't the Standard Liege fixture a condition of the Johnny Crossan transfer? What was the story again?

PS I remember Monica Rutherford. She married Brian Phelps.

True story, I dived into the bath at home aged about 6 impersonating Brian Phelps. I still have the scar on my chin.
 
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gluepot said:
Wasn't the Standard Liege fixture a condition of the Johnny Crossan transfer? What was the story again?

PS I remember Monica Rutherford. She married Brian Phelps.

True story, I dived into the bath at home aged about 6 impersonating Brian Phelps. I still have the scar on my chin.
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'Crossan began his career playing for Derry City, where he played as an inside forward. His talent was spotted by several leading English clubs, including Arsenal and Sunderland. When the latter made a substantial offer, Derry City offered Crossan a payment deal which he rejected, offering his own. When the Sunderland negotiations broke down, Derry City dropped Crossan, who signed for Coleraine. Derry City, still aggrieved by Crossan's actions, reported themselves to the Football League authorities for technical breaches of regulations, thus ensuring that Crossan would face disciplinary action.

In January 1959, a commission of inquiry imposed small fines on Derry and Coleraine, but banned Crossan from all forms of football for life. A partial lifting of the ban was allowed following an appeal, in May 1959 the inside forward signed for Dutch Champions Sparta Rotterdam,[1] where he was first called up to the Northern Ireland squad.

He went from there to Standard Liège, where he played in the semi-final of the European Cup against Real Madrid. In 1963, Crossan returned to football in the UK (following the lifting of his 'life-time' ban) when he was signed by Sunderland, with whom he made it to the old First Division. He then signed for Manchester City who were playing in the old Second Division. As team captain, he helped them make their way into the old First Division, before being sold to Middlesbrough after a loss of form following a car crash and other health problems.'

The days when Club Owners acted like they were bloody gods.
George Mulhall

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