13 year old lad hung himself near ours last night.

Pop said:
If kids are able to access all of that then the parents are dropping the ball.
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no way to 100% stop them. they will see and hear things at school and in friendship groups, just as we did back then. only difference is now they have phone in thier pocket with access to actually see those things within seconds. where as with our generation it was always just rumours. kids + modern phone is a horrendous combination.
 


tunstallhill said:
no way to 100% stop them. they will see and hear things at school and in friendship groups, just as we did back then. only difference is now they have phone in thier pocket with access to actually see those things within seconds. where as with our generation it was always just rumours. kids + modern phone is a horrendous combination.
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I agree you can’t stop it 100%, stopping it 100% isn’t normal, a bit of danger/over age material is part of growing up.

I don’t have kids but I wouldn’t give a nine year old a smartphone. If you do give them one you can block loads of stuff very easily.
 
Jap Stammer said:
If that is the case they should scan his social media accounts and name and shame anyone who's been having a go at him.

Never mind how old (or young) they are - they need to know that their actions have consequences.
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Standard in a case like this.. police will be all over it mate..
gegsongegsonlegs said:
Standard in a case like this.. police will be all over it mate..
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Thoughts with the lads family and friends

Sleep sweet youngun..
 
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Pop said:
I agree you can’t stop it 100%, stopping it 100% isn’t normal, a bit of danger/over age material is part of growing up.

I don’t have kids but I wouldn’t give a nine year old a smartphone.
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i wouldn't either, but they grow up now with the internet, ipads, tablets, google etc.. smart phones are just a part of the natural progression. same as it ever was in that some kids will be the first in their year to have them, and the other kids will be jealous and want one. as more and more kids get them, the parents feel pressured to make their child happy. their isn't a line drawn in the sand where say at 13 a child all of a sudden has internet access. they would have been doing educational things on tablets from the age of 1 or 2. its a mess. i know 18 year olds now who, to use their own word, 'literally' never have their phone more than arms reach from their body. that takes years to develop
 
tunstallhill said:
no way to 100% stop them. they will see and hear things at school and in friendship groups, just as we did back then. only difference is now they have phone in thier pocket with access to actually see those things within seconds. where as with our generation it was always just rumours. kids + modern phone is a horrendous combination.
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A parent can do all they can to block negative internet content from their child at home/on the child's mobile, etc, but other there are other kids at school and their friends, who will have full access on their phones that will show them the content they cannot access. Things like porn, violence and such, are far too accessible to kids today. Destroying their world of innocence, is now just a click away with mobile phones and full internet access.
 
tunstall birdman said:
A parent can do all they can to block negative internet content from their child at home/on the child's mobile, etc, but other there are other kids at school and their friends, who will have full access on their phones that will show them the content they cannot access. Things like porn, violence and such, are far too accessible to kids today. Destroying their world of innocence, is now just a click away with mobile phones and full internet access.
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Yep. The long term effects won't be known for many years to come. Really feel sorry for a lot of the younger generation
 
tunstall birdman said:
A parent can do all they can to block negative internet content from their child at home/on the child's mobile, etc, but other there are other kids at school and their friends, who will have full access on their phones that will show them the content they cannot access. Things like porn, violence and such, are far too accessible to kids today. Destroying their world of innocence, is now just a click away with mobile phones and full internet access.
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Added to that, something like WhatsApp can't be easily policed, is something that it can be very negative to refuse to let your chld have and can be incredibly infuential because it covers anything you can do on your phone.
 
tunstallhill said:
Yep. The long term effects won't be known for many years to come. Really feel sorry for a lot of the younger generation
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Also the way algorithms work with advertising, suggested content on some sites, such as Youtube, etc, if they just click a couple of times on links of negative content, they can get bombarded with similar suggested content.
 
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ajthemackem said:
Agree with this here like. Most kids these days don't have a childhood.
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When kids were bullied at school it was bad enough but at least they could escape to some extent outside of school . Now with WhatsApp Snapchat etc there is no escape 24/7 365 days a year . Kids didn’t suddenly become less judgemental either. Even the grown ups apps like Twitter exhibit bullying behaviours to anyone who doesn’t conform to a certain view or way of thinking.

I’m not saying the online world has contributed in this case but I feel very very sorry for kids these days
tunstall birdman said:
A parent can do all they can to block negative internet content from their child at home/on the child's mobile, etc, but other there are other kids at school and their friends, who will have full access on their phones that will show them the content they cannot access. Things like porn, violence and such, are far too accessible to kids today. Destroying their world of innocence, is now just a click away with mobile phones and full internet access.
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Some primary schools have serious issues with group bullying on WhatsApp. Imagine being 10 year old and having all the school bullies or popular groups slagging you off or making fun of you for bragging rights, as used to happen in playgrounds. Looking at your phone in the evening and knowing you have to go to school tomorrow. It’s widespread
 
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Wood Green Mackem said:
When kids were bullied at school it was bad enough but at least they could escape to some extent outside of school . Now with WhatsApp Snapchat etc there is no escape 24/7 365 days a year . Kids didn’t suddenly become less judgemental either. Even the grown ups apps like Twitter exhibit bullying behaviours to anyone who doesn’t conform to a certain view or way of thinking.

I’m not saying the online world has contributed in this case but I feel very very sorry for kids these days

Some primary schools have serious issues with group bullying on WhatsApp. Imagine being 10 year old and having all the school bullies or popular groups slagging you off or making fun of you for bragging rights, as used to happen in playgrounds. Looking at your phone in the evening and knowing you have to go to school tomorrow. It’s widespread
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And even if it not direct bullying, on group chats a bully can influence others in the group by private message, to ignore a kid who is trying to be part and feel a part of the group, making the kid feel isolated. It is a different world now for kids, compared to what we had to tackle, growing up as a kid.
Wood Green Mackem said:
When kids were bullied at school it was bad enough but at least they could escape to some extent outside of school . Now with WhatsApp Snapchat etc there is no escape 24/7 365 days a year . Kids didn’t suddenly become less judgemental either. Even the grown ups apps like Twitter exhibit bullying behaviours to anyone who doesn’t conform to a certain view or way of thinking.

I’m not saying the online world has contributed in this case but I feel very very sorry for kids these days

Some primary schools have serious issues with group bullying on WhatsApp. Imagine being 10 year old and having all the school bullies or popular groups slagging you off or making fun of you for bragging rights, as used to happen in playgrounds. Looking at your phone in the evening and knowing you have to go to school tomorrow. It’s widespread
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Yeah mate, even bo=efore reading your reply, I wrote an example that echoes what you have said.
 
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Wood Green Mackem said:
So many kids are exposed to the internet, watersheds seem none existent and we expect kids to just get on with it. When you’ve got kids accessing WhatsApp groups at 9 or 10 years old , online bullying, adults behaving dismally online themselves, even supposedly respectable ones . Being a kid these days must be a mental nightmare . There’s something to be valued in blissful ignorance
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Very true. It'll be a while yet before mine is at that age but it worries me because I feel like even as a parent there is only so much you can do to protect them these days.
 
Unfortunately there will never be an answer or fix to this tragic occurance. As a parent of an teenager with Autism and severe social anxiety and phobias her wellbeing is constantlty ingrained in my mind.

As a youngster myself growing up in the 60s and 70s those years were the best memories of my life i could look after myself had little time for TV... just had a great bunch of mates. Lived in area with plenty of open space fishing biking and scrambling on a made up discarded Honda 50 over a sand pit quary camping out in the middle of nowhere with mates without a care in the world.

I reflect daily on how much society has changed especially for the young ones often just walking the streets.

Gender stereotyping is often in the media and made out to be such a big issue, and is often a cause of anxiety and pressure for youngsters today. As well as the cyber bullies on various platforms on social media. etc it really is a mess of a minefield

If it were possible i would turn back the clock but thats will never happen. Society has changed a heck of a lot..... Reality TV especially has a lot to answer for. And all the shit from the Internet needs permanently deleting for good im sure it could be done but its all about the money and the likes. Dont get me wrong it does have a use but it needs a good sorting out and its something we can all play a part in and set an example.

My heartfelt condolences to another young life tragically gone, and which more than likey will leave mums and dads with the unanswered question of why.
 
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Devastating, as others have said I'd hate to be a kid growing up with social media today. My own lad is 11 and doesn't have a phone yet but is starting secondary school in September so will probably be after one if all his friends have them. I am dreading it, especially as he has autism and social/emotional problems so could be a target for bullies :(,
 
Motor City Cobra said:
Wtf. What an awfully cynical outlook you must have. Awful.
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No disrespect to anyone involved intended as it's absolutely tragic, but I'd be lying if I said it hadn't crossed my mind. I expect plenty of others considered it too.

As ever though it's best we don't jump to conclusions as none of us really have any idea of the circumstances.

A life has been lost, and that's an awful thing. Let's leave it at that.
 
chriswallace85 said:
No disrespect to anyone involved intended as it's absolutely tragic, but I'd be lying if I said it hadn't crossed my mind. I expect plenty of others considered it too.

As ever though it's best we don't jump to conclusions as none of us really have any idea of the circumstances.

A life has been lost, and that's an awful thing. Let's leave it at that.
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People seem to be jumping to conclusions all the way through this thread.
 

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