13 minutes wasted on goal kicks


The problem with what seems like the obvious easy solution of just handing out yellows asap is that clubs will spread them around. They already do it with cynical/niggly fouls.

Also, even if the keeper was booked on ten minutes for time wasting there is no way that if he does it again the ref is giving a red.

I suppose the FA could just say it’s going to be chaos for a few weeks but after a load of goalkeepers get reds before half time it’s sharp stop.
Similar happened to Luke Shaw in Italy, in that he got a pretty early YC for time wasting then a second Yellow. Everyone blamed the ref instead of Shaw. Think Jamal Lowe got sent off for time wasting before half time for Northern Ireland. So yeah, as usual no one would back the refs.
 
as soon as you introduce a set number of seconds to get it back in play you introduce a) another complication in the time keeping and b) an opportunity for the opposition to kick the ball away, play silly buggers, ball boys act up, crowd not throw the ball back, all sorts of shit. then the red card comes out for the player wanting to take the throw?

why not just have that in the current game, cut out the middle bit of the game timer.

in tonights games, when the ball goes out the team in possession have a set amount of time to get the game going again otherwise the cards start getting dished out? i'd be all for it, as long as it was policed correctly
There's nothing to stop any of the above happening now tbh, the difference being the clock is still running at present.

It's not really another complication in time keeping is it? Refs etc at the minute are timing 45 minutes, and also timing how much to add on in stoppages.
 
Looking at that it seems we need to time waste more! Might stand a chance of picking up more points that way!
 
There's nothing to stop any of the above happening now tbh, the difference being the clock is still running at present.

It's not really another complication in time keeping is it? Refs etc at the minute are timing 45 minutes, and also timing how much to add on in stoppages.

aye but at the minute the ref can book players for time wasting if he wants and can also tell the fuckers to hurry up

if its a game time stop clock thing, they can take ages over a goal kick with absolutely no recourse, they can sit down and pretend to be injured without being told to hurry up or physios being forced into making quick decisions, they can take 60 seconds over a throw in if they like, and the ref or anyone else can do fuck all about it
 
aye but at the minute the ref can book players for time wasting if he wants and can also tell the fuckers to hurry up

if its a game time stop clock thing, they can take ages over a goal kick with absolutely no recourse, they can sit down and pretend to be injured without being told to hurry up or physios being forced into making quick decisions, they can take 60 seconds over a throw in if they like, and the ref or anyone else can do fuck all about it
They could but they’d gain fuck all by doing it
 
aye but at the minute the ref can book players for time wasting if he wants and can also tell the fuckers to hurry up

if its a game time stop clock thing, they can take ages over a goal kick with absolutely no recourse, they can sit down and pretend to be injured without being told to hurry up or physios being forced into making quick decisions, they can take 60 seconds over a throw in if they like, and the ref or anyone else can do fuck all about it
But they rarely do, that's the problem.

And it's easy to put something in place to stop them taking ages, as said previously.
 
But they rarely do, that's the problem.

And it's easy to put something in place to stop them taking ages, as said previously.

exactly, they rarely do. so surely its easier to fix that little problem within the confines of the current game and its laws, than fundamentally change the entire structure of the game to solve the problem
 
I dinnar why, but the article wasn't there in his post when I first replied.


I seem to be at odds with a lot of people over this time wasting debate. It's only become a debate because people with nothing better to do are counting up statistics and sticking them on the internet. I'm just not bothered. The game's 90 minutes long. That's ya timeframe. Get on with it.

A sixty minute game is just as open to abuse as a 90 minute game. Stoppages? Teams will just take longer. Stoppages now are as much about taking the sting out games, regrouping and having a breather as they are winding down the clock. We'll end up with the stop-start nonsense that is the NFL. With the game on a continuous 90 minute clock there's an impetus to get on with the game.

The ball being in play for 60 minutes will only serve to benefit the better sides. We want to be levelling the playing field with the big clubs, not playing into their hands. The longer the ball's in play, the more chance they'll hurt you. It's no coincidence that the higher up you go and the better the team are, the longer the ball is in play.

You have to think of the emotive side of it as well. A 60 minute stopwatch just sounds so tame to me. You want the crowd and the players getting wound up. Ya want people losing their rag. Ya want the game to boil over. That's the joy of football. It's a passionate game. Ya want people wound up and ya want a release. For me, a stopwatch would be too methodical for football. It's like VAR - that's fuckin' crap anarl.


The 90 minute game has been going for nigh on 150 years. It's not broken. Stop trying to fix it.
Would you be happy seeing your favourite band play for 90 minutes but spend 30 of them tuning up or fiddling with their amps?
 
Stop the clock every time the ball is out of play, you have a set number of seconds to get it going again depending on the situation or its a card.

Keeper has 25 seconds for a goal kick, 20 seconds for a team to take a throw in etc.

Not sure where 5-6 minute stoppages would come from if that was introduced?

This is the best and simplest way to do it.
 
I bet it wasn't 30 second like.
30 seconds isn’t rare late in the game these days, I’ve seen a 42 second one in the Championship and Nick Pope (biggest timewaster going) has a 37 second one to his name this season. When there was 4 minutes of added time in the Newcastle City game at the start of the season he had two 30 second ones within that 4 minutes, a quarter of added time was spent with him holding the ball!
 
Don't know why anyone wouldn't want it changing to prevent it tbh just because its "Always been the same"

Some of our games in L1 we're absolutely grim to watch with the way other teams were setting up to get a result against us.

When I was running finance departments, the thing that really got me narked was if I questioned some inefficient procedure and got back the answer "We've always done it that way". Lazy thinking. There are always ways systems can be improved.
Shithousery has many forms. Ritchie Pitt was told to hit Eddie Gray hard and early. Wharra tackle. That was 50 year ago.

It was Alan Clarke. Clarke hid for the remaining 89 minutes.
 
When it was brought in it was six seconds. I have only ever known it applied once and that was shortly after the rule was brought in. Surprise, surprise ... it was Newcastle who were given the free-kick and if I remember rightly Mary Poppins scored from it. Typical!
I actually remember us getting an indirect free kick for it a year or two ago in league 1, can’t remember who against but the keeper was proper taking the piss. The whole stadium was baffled, no idea what was going on but that was defo the reason it was given
 

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