£8500 pa to study at Teesside Uni


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I'm not disputing the fact we're skint. Or that the cream of the universities should charge the full nine grand - the exception rather than the rule, as Clegg said.

But you'd think it would have occurred to these supposed experts on free markets that very few universities would attract punters if they undervalued their services and were regarded as 'bargain basement' places, so they were all going to charge as much as they could get away with.

On a side note, the costs of the government keeping track of the personal earnings - and whereabouts - of millions of people over several decades is going to be astronomical.

No it's not, we have "magic" things called N.I.numbers and computers.
 
Already said but its Business and Finance - not all BA's are arty farty , I reckon we need a mix of both
Ok, sorry, I didn't read.

I have never seen why there is a snobbery about BSc and BA. A good degree from a good University will always be valued more than a good degree from a poor university (be it BA or BSC).
 
That 'magic' has been a fat lot of use to the Child Support Agency, which is on the brink of meltdown.

I also know of mates who were on foundation courses and not paying tuition fees but still gaining student loans. There are massive flaws in the system which will be exploited.

A lad in my halls lost a grand on the horses when his loan came in and just shrugged his shoulders and got a hardship loan. Another lad blagged he had dyslexia and got a brand new computer out of it.
 
Ok, sorry, I didn't read.

I have never seen why there is a snobbery about BSc and BA. A good degree from a good University will always be valued more than a good degree from a poor university (be it BA or BSC).

I got a crap degree from Sunderland but was willing to move where the jobs are which made a huge difference - I never wanted to do a degree but after getting laid off from a really quite decent job after A Levels and living in the sticks had very little option , I was fortunate but it's not a path to riches anymore - we need more work based vocational courses etc
 
That 'magic' has been a fat lot of use to the Child Support Agency, which is on the brink of meltdown.

You can ask call me Tone about that, he paid way OTT for an already outdated system, we are all a bit more tech savvy these days.
 
I got a crap degree from Sunderland but was willing to move where the jobs are which made a huge difference - I never wanted to do a degree but after getting laid off from a really quite decent job after A Levels and living in the sticks had very little option , I was fortunate but it's not a path to riches anymore - we need more work based vocational courses etc
Degrees have totally lost their kudos, but, having said that, if you haven't got one, it is "why haven't you got a degree? are you thick?" I am all for education, but I think 50% of children getting degrees is daft, they do become meaningless. They are only valuable if only a few people have them.
 
I also know of mates who were on foundation courses and not paying tuition fees but still gaining student loans. There are massive flaws in the system which will be exploited.

A lad in my halls lost a grand on the horses when his loan came in and just shrugged his shoulders and got a hardship loan. Another lad blagged he had dyslexia and got a brand new computer out of it.

Excellent, proof the whole system needs updating and monitoring closely to stop people who say they are needy aren't just taking the piss.
 
we need more work based vocational courses etc

Its just as bad as those who have left school and have cushy jobs in the private sector as well like. I did a placement at an american bank and there were a number of staff on 35k a year there who were skilled in listening to call centre calls :eek:

The managers would listen to a few sales calls, made sure they met the FSA regualtions and fuck off early. They would spend a lot of time off site and when I went down with them all they did was get pissed. The whole countrys fucked :lol:

When I left I was in shock that people were being paid so high to do so little and they all moved up the ranks from being school leavers.
 
You can ask call me Tone about that, he paid way OTT for an already outdated system, we are all a bit more tech savvy these days.

Then why isn't the 'magic' DSS computer system stopping the industrial-scale benefit fraud that's STILL going on in this country?
 
Degrees have totally lost their kudos, but, having said that, if you haven't got one, it is "why haven't you got a degree? are you thick?" I am all for education, but I think 50% of children getting degrees is daft, they do become meaningless. They are only valuable if only a few people have them.

Come and work on a building site and see what good a degree does you.
I often laugh at the the pretentious student that looks down their nose at me a i arrive on site but then i can, i know what her dad earns and what i earn.
 
Come and work on a building site and see what good a degree does you.
I often laugh at the the pretentious student that looks down their nose at me a i arrive on site but then i can, i know what her dad earns and what i earn.
:confused:

(Do the quantity surveyor and architect not have degrees?)
 
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People who "fuck about" couldn't give a shit about the thirty-six grand - Cameron has promised that they won't have to repay their loans if they don't reach certain levels of income. Which this sort of person won't, so the Government (i.e. the taxpayer) stumps up the cash instead. And that's now three times as much under the Tories, than we used to.

Deliberate lie, or basic ignorance?
 
The Uni itself only wanted to charge £5k for courses but the student board didn't want the degrees etc undervalued by other institutions charging £9k so something comparable was agreed. Not good for any establishment to charge that much but once one of them said it was all followed suit.

Do you really think the price of the qualification dictates how other will see it?

I'd say a university's reputation has more to do with entry requirements and teaching quality.
 
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