£8500 pa to study at Teesside Uni


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The expected fall in demand of these polys will see a few closing. Probably a good thing really those who go just to fuck about might think twice of they are getting in 36,000 quids worth of debt for the trouble.

People who "fuck about" couldn't give a shit about the thirty-six grand - Cameron has promised that they won't have to repay their loans if they don't reach certain levels of income. Which this sort of person won't, so the Government (i.e. the taxpayer) stumps up the cash instead. And that's now three times as much under the Tories, than we used to.
 
People who "fuck about" couldn't give a shit about the thirty-six grand - Cameron has promised that they won't have to repay their loans if they don't reach certain levels of income. Which this sort of person won't, so the Government (i.e. the taxpayer) stumps up the cash instead. And that's now three times as much under the Tories, than we used to.

The Government were paying anyway...just by a different route
 
So why not accept they can't compete and charge the £5k - such a short term policy it's plain daft - at least places like Sunderland can compete on key courses like Pharmacy , I'm not aware of Teeside having an exemplary reputation in a particular line of study but I'd welcome being proved wrong

Isnt it 6k the minimum from next September? Could be wrong.

The reason theyre charging so much is that even 6k per head wont be enough to cover their overheads from the reduced budgets of the government. The Tories clearly have an agenda to make Universities more elite again and fair play to them imo. There are far too many that go these days just to avoid going into long term work rather than carve out a career.
 
People who "fuck about" couldn't give a shit about the thirty-six grand - Cameron has promised that they won't have to repay their loans if they don't reach certain levels of income. Which this sort of person won't, so the Government (i.e. the taxpayer) stumps up the cash instead. And that's now three times as much under the Tories, than we used to.

Disagree with this, Im pretty sure the new lower scale is now £15,600 per annum to start paying your loan back. Even if the fuckabouts did a civil service job for the rest of their lives that 35k debt will have an impact on their salary for the rest of their life.
 
But they weren't promising to write off so much of the debt - which is where this has backfired spectacularly.

They have to pay the fees upfront, this is what they are baulking at at the moment...they weren't expecting them to be so high. Ironic really

No thought has been given at all to how much will be paid back ultimately
 
Isnt it 6k the minimum from next September? Could be wrong.

The reason theyre charging so much is that even 6k per head wont be enough to cover their overheads from the reduced budgets of the government. The Tories clearly have an agenda to make Universities more elite again and fair play to them imo. There are far too many that go these days just to avoid going into long term work rather than carve out a career.

Or an agenda to make a degree mean something and poly's go back to being poly's and technical schools go back to being tech. schools.
It's just the common sense we need after call me Tone decided the best way to make sure we had 50% of school leavers going to uni was to dumb down the courses and make nail polishing 101 a degree subject.

It's back to the , if you are good enough ,you'll qualify route again, and employers might start to take degrees and the students that get them more seriously.
 
Isnt it 6k the minimum from next September? Could be wrong.

The reason theyre charging so much is that even 6k per head wont be enough to cover their overheads from the reduced budgets of the government. The Tories clearly have an agenda to make Universities more elite again and fair play to them imo. There are far too many that go these days just to avoid going into long term work rather than carve out a career.

Total agreement , typed something similar and thought I'd get shot down - a degree used to be worth something - labour governments 'education for all' policy was just a way of getting under 21's out of the unemployed remit and give them a few years grace to get their house in order - upshot now is mass unemployment in the under 25 bracket , feel sorry for them really as most with degrees face having to start off very little further up the 'ladder' then they'd have been if they'd simply not bothered and massively in debt too.
 
They have to pay the fees upfront, this is what they are baulking at at the moment...they weren't expecting them to be so high. Ironic really

No thought has been given at all to how much will be paid back ultimately

This government is constantly telling us that one of the reasons we're in the shit is because of personal debt - people spending money they don't have on credit cards and mortgages - which must be reigned in. Yet one of their first acts is to saddle the next generation with a huge personal debt.
 
Havent read every post, as i really cant be bothered at the minute...

But if it's £8500 a year, i do believe they give a bursary of a few thousand, so it doesnt actually work out as that much.

Im currently a mature student at Teesside, and im sure i saw something a month or so ago about fees for 20011-2012 year, and after working it out it would cost £4500 a year.

Things may have changed, but they definatley offer a bursary of a few thousand... so it isn't £8500 you'll have to pay.
 
This government is constantly telling us that one of the reasons we're in the shit is because of personal debt - people spending money they don't have on credit cards and mortgages - which must be reigned in. Yet one of their first acts is to saddle the next generation with a huge personal debt.

No, a small percentage of the population with a manageable debt ,which by taking on will mean you are earning more than the average wage.
You want a better job and better wages then you pay for it as we are skint.
 
Havent read every post, as i really cant be bothered at the minute...

But if it's £8500 a year, i do believe they give a bursary of a few thousand, so it doesnt actually work out as that much.

Im currently a mature student at Teesside, and im sure i saw something a month or so ago about fees for 20011-2012 year, and after working it out it would cost £4500 a year.

Things may have changed, but they definatley offer a bursary of a few thousand... so it isn't £8500 you'll have to pay.

A means tested bursary I would imagine...
 
Why do you think a BA is less of a degree ? I got a BA from Sunderland and have forged quite a nice career for myself thanks

Or maybe I should've done a BSc and got paid a fortune for studying why toast falls butter side down ? Get a grip
BSc aren't necessarily about science.

What is your BA degree?
 
Havent read every post, as i really cant be bothered at the minute...

But if it's £8500 a year, i do believe they give a bursary of a few thousand, so it doesnt actually work out as that much.

Im currently a mature student at Teesside, and im sure i saw something a month or so ago about fees for 20011-2012 year, and after working it out it would cost £4500 a year.

Things may have changed, but they definatley offer a bursary of a few thousand... so it isn't £8500 you'll have to pay.

This applies if you stay at home and live with your parents. I imagine 90% of students will be living away so the 8500 will apply. Its hardly as if the country is littered with part time jobs at the moment to help with living costs.
 
This applies if you stay at home and live with your parents. I imagine 90% of students will be living away so the 8500 will apply. Its hardly as if the country is littered with part time jobs at the moment to help with living costs.

There's over 400,000 vacancies at the minute.
 
There's over 400,000 vacancies at the minute.

In what though?

Students can hardly graft on building sites, Do Long Distance Driving or work in a factory.


Its pretty much limited to Call Centres, Bar Work and Retail andId very much doubt theres a load of jobs in them sectors at the minute.
 
I think thats pretty obvious tbh. When I graduated there were lecturers being made redundant and cuts being made to facilities and this was 4 years ago.

The expected fall in demand of these polys will see a few closing. Probably a good thing really those who go just to fuck about might think twice of they are getting in 36,000 quids worth of debt for the trouble.
Yes students may be prepared to pay £9K to Oxford, but not necessarily Teesside. Unless they drop their fees they probably will suffer.
 
No, a small percentage of the population with a manageable debt ,which by taking on will mean you are earning more than the average wage.
You want a better job and better wages then you pay for it as we are skint.

I'm not disputing the fact we're skint. Or that the cream of the universities should charge the full nine grand - the exception rather than the rule, as Clegg said.

But you'd think it would have occurred to these supposed experts on free markets that very few universities would attract punters if they undervalued their services and were regarded as 'bargain basement' places, so they were all going to charge as much as they could get away with.

On a side note, the costs of the government keeping track of the personal earnings - and whereabouts - of millions of people over several decades is going to be astronomical.
 
I'm not disputing the fact we're skint. Or that the cream of the universities should charge the full nine grand - the exception rather than the rule, as Clegg said.

But you'd think it would have occurred to these supposed experts on free markets that very few universities would attract punters if they undervalued their services and were regarded as 'bargain basement' places, so they were all going to charge as much as they could get away with.

On a side note, the costs of the government keeping track of the personal earnings - and whereabouts - of millions of people over several decades is going to be astronomical.

Don't they do this already with the existing student loans scheme ?
 
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