£1.5m for kevin davies


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TheHonestMag said:
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Got to agree with the mag tosser on that
 
Not the Europa league.

So if we got into Europe and won it, we could get just over £5m in prize money and may be the same again in matchday income after costs. Then there would likely be a players bonus scheme in operation linked to the competition. Plus, we are, at best, an outside bet to even qualify.

Granted the commercial benefits would be better should we become a fixture in the competition, but no reason to suggest that is likely to happen and it can't happen unless we start living within our means anyway.

Yes but like you said, there will be the influx of income from matchday sales.
There will also be more sponsorship opportunities as well as increased TV revenue.

We'd also be more attractive to potential investors.
 
Yes but like you said, there will be the influx of income from matchday sales.
There will also be more sponsorship opportunities as well as increased TV revenue.

We'd also be more attractive to potential investors.

Long term, and if we can sustain it rather than being a flash in the pan, yes. But spend what we don't have now and we take a massive risk as UEFA could very easily ban us from the competition even if we do become a fixture in it.

Short term, the financial rewards of achieving Europa League football don't come close to justifying the outlay of chasing it.

Have to build slowly, sensibly, and resourcefully if we are going to do it, and no reason why we can't do that.
 
Long term, and if we can sustain it rather than being a flash in the pan, yes. But spend what we don't have now and we take a massive risk as UEFA could very easily ban us from the competition even if we do become a fixture in it.

Short term, the financial rewards of achieving Europa League football don't come close to justifying the outlay of chasing it.

Have to build slowly, sensibly, and resourcefully if we are going to do it, and no reason why we can't do that.

Great points. The only issue is, we're going to struggle to sign and hang onto the calibre of players who want to play in Europe. In order to qualify for Europe we either need a lot of luck or we need extra quality.
 
Long term, and if we can sustain it rather than being a flash in the pan, yes. But spend what we don't have now and we take a massive risk as UEFA could very easily ban us from the competition even if we do become a fixture in it.

Short term, the financial rewards of achieving Europa League football don't come close to justifying the outlay of chasing it.

Have to build slowly, sensibly, and resourcefully if we are going to do it, and no reason why we can't do that.

Build too slowly and you go backwards. Other clubs overtake you. No club decides to go backwards. It's what happens when you don't act.
 
Great points. The only issue is, we're going to struggle to sign and hang onto the calibre of players who want to play in Europe. In order to qualify for Europe we either need a lot of luck or we need extra quality.

The Financial Fair Play stuff is effectively just Europe's elite clubs pulling the drawbridge up behind them to ensure they advantage they have no will never be challenged by another Chelsea or Manchester City. I remember Michel Platini saying it was Roman Abramovic who first approached him about the idea, which tells you all you need to know.

I think we have enough resources to become a fixture in Europe. Have to still believe that or we'd all go crackers. We just need the right manager to channel them and the right man at the top to provide an effective long-term strategy to achieve it.

Build too slowly and you go backwards. Other clubs overtake you. No club decides to go backwards. It's what happens when you don't act.

True, but the club IS acting. Just not as aggressively as people demand in the modern era. FFP can be a good thing for Sunderland. Consider this:

In our last accounts we posted a turnover of £65.3m. In the financial fair play era that is they key figure as you can only spend what you bring in. Since that time, our TV and Prize Money has gone up by £9m (according to the Premier League at the end of last season).

Our sponsorship is pretty low right now at only £2.5m a season. So with the club actively seeking development there and probably throwing in Stadium naming rights too, we can likely expect to see an increase in that over the next year or so, leaving us (should we maintain our top half position) with something around £80m turnover.

Absolutely no reason why the club can't be very competitive with a figure like that, especially with a manager so good at getting fairly ordinary players to over-perform. Then, as we have said earlier, getting into Europe will take it up again. Becoming a fixture in Europe will take it up even further.

The club certainly isn't standing still. We just can't throw money at it any more. Now the emphasis must be on sustainable and organic growth and we will be very well positioned going into the FFP era.

Throwing money that we didn't have at it was fun and exciting whilst it lasted, but patience and strategy is what is needed now.
 
Read all the posts and i'm with gipetto on this one(for a change) if he can't get into a poor Bolton side,who play with wide men like Eagles and Petrov,i just don't see the point of signing him,he's never been a world beater and like Heskey he's basically finished,the fact they pulled out of offering him a contract says it all for me,would rather use Ji or Connor and get them up to speed for next season. Barrios or Almeida would be great signings though.

That suggests to me that there's trouble behind the scenes which is why he wants out. Bolton fans have talked about him 'sulking' on the bench and hinted that he can be involved (if he chooses). I think it's probably more about Coyle trying to change the way Bolton play and that means either KD isn't such a focus as before or he thinks Coyle is going in the wrong direction and has lost respect / belief in the manager.

With Bendtner out and Whickham / Ji's inexperience, I think getting him in as a starter this season and back-up next (when Bendtner's left) is a good short-term and cheap plan. It also allows us to maximise the spend in the summer on an high quality prolific striker.
 
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What a sad little man you must be (your name is fitting for your personality). Who the fuck cares about punctuation and spelling? Im writing a message on a forum using an iPhone! Im not writing a formal Business Letter or an Essay (BELLEND!)

Nice move going for a player who cant get a game for a relegation club!

And that would be a bite. You bellend. Needed two bites at it anarl.
 
He is brave, works hard, holds the ball up really well, takes a knock (and dishes them out), knows the league inside out, conducts himself superbly as a pro, and will score a few goals.

With the type of football we are playing under MON, I think he would be a cracking addition.

Add to that, he wont bottle it in the big games, and he would bring on the young lads.

I really cant see the downside, get him in.
 
What a sad little man you must be (your name is fitting for your personality). Who the fuck cares about punctuation and spelling? Im writing a message on a forum using an iPhone! Im not writing a formal Business Letter or an Essay (BELLEND!)

Nice move going for a player who cant get a game for a relegation club!

Leon Best was hardly pulling up any trees when you signed him, if Pardew can get him scoring then O'Neill can do a job with Davies.

Would I prefer someone else, yeah probably but we don't want our pants pulled down in January, all we need is someone to hold the ball up for us for half a season and Davies would do that....keep our powder dry for the summer.
 
Leon Best was hardly pulling up any trees when you signed him, if Pardew can get him scoring then O'Neill can do a job with Davies.

Would I prefer someone else, yeah probably but we don't want our pants pulled down in January, all we need is someone to hold the ball up for us for half a season and Davies would do that....keep our powder dry for the summer.

I'd rather have had Leon Best than Davies,at least he's in his prime,Jason Roberts would have been better than Davies,at least he has some mobility to go with the strength and the non scoring of goals!
 
I'd rather have had Leon Best than Davies,at least he's in his prime,Jason Roberts would have been better than Davies,at least he has some mobility to go with the strength and the non scoring of goals!

Wasn't having a pop at Best just stating Davies wouldn't be as bad as some think, depending on the deal..........Roberts can be a sulky fucker at times but you are right he is more mobile
 
Can't understand how a lot of folk on here would have Davies but didn't fancy Heskey,don't see a lot of difference tbh?

Not much difference but Davies never relied on pace whereas Heskey did. Of the two I'd just about rather have Davies but wouldn't mind either as an experienced physical presence in the short term, ideally on loan or a one year with option to extend contract.
 
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