19th June Stats



Jap Stammer said:
Last three days it looks as if the numbers are broadly the same, cases actually heading slightly downwards.

Have we reached a peak or a plateau? Or is it the 'weekend effect'?

Either way, agree with post #3 that more info is needed around the deaths and possibly the hospitalisations.
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There are day to day variations, up and down, which is why the 7 day average is the better figure to go on and that is up by 1300 in just the last 4 days.

Doesn't look to be any sign of leveling out at the moment unfortunately. There was a slight slow down last weekend and some thought that was the peak. I thought we would average 8200 yesterday or today. I was way off and it is 9109 today. Not showing any sign of stopping.
 
DaveH said:
There are day to day variations, up and down, which is why the 7 day average is the better figure to go on and that is up by 1300 in just the last 4 days.

Doesn't look to be any sign of leveling out at the moment unfortunately. There was a slight slow down last weekend and some thought that was the peak. I thought we would average 8200 yesterday or today. I was way off and it is 9109 today. Not showing any sign of stopping.
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Don’t get yourself too wound up with cases increasing.
With roughly the same figures in February there were close to 500 deaths a day.
Bears Beets said:
I dread to think where we’d be without the vaccines
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Probably where we were last summer.
 
garyswc said:
Yep. Hospital admissions are going up but these are much younger and far less sick. An epidemiologist and modeller from SPI-M reckons so anyhow.
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Are they just sticking people in hospital to keep the figures up, far less sick, that’s tickled me somewhat.
 
joemcdokes said:
Are they just sticking people in hospital to keep the figures up, far less sick, that’s tickled me somewhat.
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The fact that deaths are reduced by about 99% probably shows people are nowhere near as sick wouldnt you say. My wife's colleagues husband was admitted to hospital back in the first wave and died within 24 hours, he was 53 with no known health issues. Younger folk are going in now and getting oxygen and maybe drug treatments and out and home in quick time.
 
garyswc said:
The fact that deaths are reduced by about 99% probably shows people are nowhere near as sick wouldnt you say. My wife's colleagues husband was admitted to hospital back in the first wave and died within 24 hours, he was 53 with no known health issues. Younger folk are going in now and getting oxygen and maybe drug treatments and out and home in quick time.
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Could there possibly be an increase due to anxiety related issues?

I know a woman that had long Covid and she did say she started getting panic attacks one resulting in a hospital admission.

The more people that get it the more the chances of those that find things difficult to deal with will increase.
 
joemcdokes said:
Could there possibly be an increase due to anxiety related issues?

I know a woman that had long Covid and she did say she started getting panic attacks one resulting in a hospital admission.

The more people that get it the more the chances of those that find things difficult to deal with will increase.
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Aye maybe. There's currently around 1,300 in hospital and there are over 1,250 UK hospitals so they're not exactly overrun so the chance of being admitted if you're not feeling great is higher. Waves 1 and 2 you need to be just about at deaths door to get in. A friend of a friend is a GP back in wave 1 he had been ill for a couple of weeks and called 111 when his oxygen sat was something crazy like 91, they still told him to see how it goes. He called back the next day as although his ox was up a bit he realised the unusual smell he had around him was the odour that came from his palliative patients immediately prior to death. He was admitted and pulled through but has had long covid and had a bit of a nervous break down following his first jab. I'd guess anyone rocking up to hospital now with such a low ox sat would be admitted sharpish.
 
Rustie Trombone said:
14 deaths today nationally from 3398 cases from 3 weeks ago is very encouraging*

*I realise we're talking about people dying and my choice of words could be better
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Your post is fair comment, 14 deaths are tragic on a personal level but encouraging as we move on.
Rustie Trombone said:
We'll be fully open on July 5th

Haway Boris! :lol:
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If that happens it'll be despite BJ.
 
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garyswc said:
Aye maybe. There's currently around 1,300 in hospital and there are over 1,250 UK hospitals so they're not exactly overrun so the chance of being admitted if you're not feeling great is higher. Waves 1 and 2 you need to be just about at deaths door to get in. A friend of a friend is a GP back in wave 1 he had been ill for a couple of weeks and called 111 when his oxygen sat was something crazy like 91, they still told him to see how it goes. He called back the next day as although his ox was up a bit he realised the unusual smell he had around him was the odour that came from his palliative patients immediately prior to death. He was admitted and pulled through but has had long covid and had a bit of a nervous break down following his first jab. I'd guess anyone rocking up to hospital now with such a low ox sat would be admitted sharpish.
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I was really concerned during the first wave as the wife had to shield but my daughter was transferred to work on a Covid ward.

I did tell her under no circumstances should she go onto the ward without the correct PPE, one of my concerns with the pandemic and there seems to be plenty not here now because they didn’t do that.

She had a loss of taste and smell when they weren’t symptoms and still went to work, when she finally got a test it was negative, an antibody test later showed she’d had it.

There were patients that ventilation made worse regarding their blood oxygen levels, the NHS went into this totally blind.

I don’t get why they decided to use the 28 day thing, we have no idea how bad this actually is, to me after the initial scare things stabilised but waves will happen if you lockdown.

I’ve tried to use all possible logic I’ve got but still cannot work it out.

I got letters to do the antibody tests twice but just chucked them in the bin, I was unwell the week the lockdown began but there were no tests available at the time.

I feel for all those having had the vaccines but still having restrictions put upon them.

I’m not a worrier and although the wife cannot even have the vaccine she isn’t either.
 
joemcdokes said:
I was really concerned during the first wave as the wife had to shield but my daughter was transferred to work on a Covid ward.

I did tell her under no circumstances should she go onto the ward without the correct PPE, one of my concerns with the pandemic and there seems to be plenty not here now because they didn’t do that.

She had a loss of taste and smell when they weren’t symptoms and still went to work, when she finally got a test it was negative, an antibody test later showed she’d had it.

There were patients that ventilation made worse regarding their blood oxygen levels, the NHS went into this totally blind.

I don’t get why they decided to use the 28 day thing, we have no idea how bad this actually is, to me after the initial scare things stabilised but waves will happen if you lockdown.

I’ve tried to use all possible logic I’ve got but still cannot work it out.

I got letters to do the antibody tests twice but just chucked them in the bin, I was unwell the week the lockdown began but there were no tests available at the time.

I feel for all those having had the vaccines but still having restrictions put upon them.

I’m not a worrier and although the wife cannot even have the vaccine she isn’t either.
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Doctors were on a really steep learning curve certainly. I said to the wife, family members and friends let's try to avoid this thing for as long as possible so that if and when any of us get it there are therapeutics and know how etc to help if its needed. To this day not one single (close or wider) family member has knowingly had the virus. Fair play to you and the wife I think I'd have been rarely scared in that position. Mind neither my sister or bil can have the vaccine either and they're really chilled about it.
 

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