Vaccine passports back on the menu



Decentdaysandnights said:
Why not?
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It is effectively coercion to take the vaccine, I personally will take it. It also disproportionately discriminates against people of different religions who do not wish to take it. I also have concerns over the precedence it will set, as well as the general sentiment of it, show you papers before you come in, sigh. It’s just a reminder of Covid that I and millions of others will want to escape from in July onwards.
 
0321safc said:
It is effectively coercion to take the vaccine, I personally will take it. It also disproportionately discriminates against people of different religions who do not wish to take it. I also have concerns over the precedence it will set, as well as the general sentiment of it, show you papers before you come in, sigh. It’s just a reminder of Covid that I and millions of others will want to escape from in July onwards.
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Sign of the times I’m afraid though. People can whine on all they like about their rights and liberties being infringed upon but at the same time I don’t want my rights and liberties jeopardised by someone whose unvaccinated posing a risk to me and my family.
 
Decentdaysandnights said:
Sign of the times I’m afraid though. People can whine on all they like about their rights and liberties being infringed upon but at the same time I don’t want my rights and liberties jeopardised by someone whose unvaccinated posing a risk to me and my family.
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You can still transmit the virus even if you are vaccinated, just to a markedly less degree. From 21st of June we will learn to live with it. I’m not sure where the line is drawn, the precedent it will set worries me the most .... I feel uncomfortable with the ‘showing papers’ concept. Should people who work on a builders yard or factory have to show proof of vaccination? People who have little social life but need to see the GP? What about when 17 year olds turn 18 and haven’t been vaccinated, couldn’t celebrate 18th birthday in a pub. What about the very few who medically can’t take a vaccine, won’t they get tut tut and head shaking with some kind of exemption lanyard? Just a few issues of concern I can think of.
 
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About time.

Travel abroad will be a requirement of the individual countries and we will have to comply. Here I'm sick of hearing how the minority is effecting how the majority can live their lives. Put the jab in my arm and let me get back to normality. I'll show my card.

I've got people at work refusing testing. Some a frontline facing staff dealing with the public. Some go into peoples homes and are refusing weekly testing and we as a company are allowing that!!! Health and Safety at Work Act, "It is the duty of all employees to protect themselves and others". By refusing the test, if they are Asymptomatic, they are putting the health of others at risk because they won't stick a cotton bud up their nose.

I would take it a lot further. No CV19 jab, no job. If Doris the barmaid is refusing the jab she should not be in a position to put others at risk.
 
0321safc said:
It is effectively coercion to take the vaccine, I personally will take it. It also disproportionately discriminates against people of different religions who do not wish to take it. I also have concerns over the precedence it will set, as well as the general sentiment of it, show you papers before you come in, sigh. It’s just a reminder of Covid that I and millions of others will want to escape from in July onwards.
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There are no religions which forbid this vaccine. If people don’t want to take it that is their decision and nothing to do with God.
 
Sir Lancelot said:
There are no religions which forbid this vaccine. If people don’t want to take it that is their decision and nothing to do with God.
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There’s clearly a problem with particular groups in society with regards to taking the vaccine though. People should actively encourage their peers and associates to take it, but it shouldn’t be coerced by the state. There’s no way a Tory government will facilitate it anyway. Individual companies may, but some Tory backbenchers like David Davis feel so strongly about it they would resign from the party if it was government policy. IMO the mixed messaging is deliberate to persuade people who are unsure about taking it to do so.
 
0321safc said:
There’s clearly a problem with particular groups in society with regards to taking the vaccine though. People should actively encourage their peers and associates to take it, but it shouldn’t be coerced by the state. There’s no way a Tory government will facilitate it anyway. Individual companies may, but some Tory backbenchers like David Davis feel so strongly about it they would resign from the party if it was government policy. IMO the mixed messaging is deliberate to persuade people who are unsure about taking it to do so.
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Hopefully mate because I can see how this can become a very dangerous and slippery slope.
 

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