England in Sri Lanka Red Ball



TopCat said:
Amazingly, it's been 18 years since the Aussies won over here. I don't expect that to change
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Aussies are shite, flat track bullies

Only ever dominate on the worst pitches in the world

those pitches in the last Ashes were a disgrace, some of the worst cricket I've ever watched, completely pointless. Its only as it was the ashes that people watched, if that was Australia Sri Lanka theyt wouldn't
 
TopCat said:
Amazingly, it's been 18 years since the Aussies won over here. I don't expect that to change
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They win matches though, if not Series.

I want to see us beat them five-nil, like they often do to us down there, but it will never happen as long as we prepare wickets that suit them, like we did at Lords the last time around.

You don't see many pitches down under that suit our strengths, they're always fast and bouncy which is what they're used to batting and bowling on. I've always thought that it's harder for batsmen who are used to slower, lower wickets to adjust to ones that are fast with steepling bounce, than it is to adjust from fast, bouncy tracks to slow, low seamers, regardless of the amount of lateral movement. You simply have more time to adjust on the slower wickets. They are therefore always at more of an advantage playing here than we are over there.

To alleviate that we should always play them on typical English green-tops, where we theoretically should be able to maximise the (home) advantage.

That's why they're called 'Test matches'. They're supposed to test your ability to adapt and perform in foreign conditions.
 
Jap Stammer said:
They win matches though, if not Series.

I want to see us beat them five-nil, like they often do to us down there, but it will never happen as long as we prepare wickets that suit them, like we did at Lords the last time around.

You don't see many pitches down under that suit our strengths, they're always fast and bouncy which is what they're used to batting and bowling on. I've always thought that it's harder for batsmen who are used to slower, lower wickets to adjust to ones that are fast with steepling bounce, than it is to adjust from fast, bouncy tracks to slow, low seamers, regardless of the amount of lateral movement. You simply have more time to adjust on the slower wickets. They are therefore always at more of an advantage playing here than we are over there.

To alleviate that we should always play them on typical English green-tops, where we theoretically should be able to maximise the (home) advantage.

That's why they're called 'Test matches'. They're supposed to test your ability to adapt and perform in foreign conditions.
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While I agree with a lot of what you say the bit in bold is simply not true, its just a myth, the pitches are so flat and so so slow. Only Perth offers any pace, which is a shame as I think it would be great cricket.

We should just produce normal English pitches

there is a few posters on here and some media pundits who think England produce doctored pitches for series, its bullshit, those are the conditions, its England, the ball swings, the ball seams.

When we bowled out out Australia for 60 before lunch on Day 1 at trent bridge, people were saying typical England producing a sub par pitch, Joe Root scored 100 on day 1, Bairstow scored 74 on day 1, and we made 400!
 
The Rat said:
While I agree with a lot of what you say the bit in bold is simply not true, its just a myth, the pitches are so flat and so so slow. Only Perth offers any pace, which is a shame as I think it would be great cricket.

We should just produce normal English pitches

there is a few posters on here and some media pundits who think England produce doctored pitches for series, its bullshit, those are the conditions, its England, the ball swings, the ball seams.

When we bowled out out Australia for 60 before lunch on Day 1 at trent bridge, people were saying typical England producing a sub par pitch, Joe Root scored 100 on day 1, Bairstow scored 74 on day 1, and we made 400!
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Fast and bouncy might have been true historically but these days they use drop-in pitches and the new stadium does too so the WACA days have gone.

I don't know how you can produce a pitch to swing. Even here Trent Bridge and Lords can be flat if it's a sunny day and there's no swing.

(Maybe the Aussies should use a ball with a more pronounced seam)
 
Jap Stammer said:
They win matches though, if not Series.

I want to see us beat them five-nil, like they often do to us down there, but it will never happen as long as we prepare wickets that suit them, like we did at Lords the last time around.

You don't see many pitches down under that suit our strengths, they're always fast and bouncy which is what they're used to batting and bowling on. I've always thought that it's harder for batsmen who are used to slower, lower wickets to adjust to ones that are fast with steepling bounce, than it is to adjust from fast, bouncy tracks to slow, low seamers, regardless of the amount of lateral movement. You simply have more time to adjust on the slower wickets. They are therefore always at more of an advantage playing here than we are over there.

To alleviate that we should always play them on typical English green-tops, where we theoretically should be able to maximise the (home) advantage.

That's why they're called 'Test matches'. They're supposed to test your ability to adapt and perform in foreign conditions.
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Agree 100%. We are far too British and look to prepare "good" pitches that give both teams an even chance. We need to be like every other test nation and prepare wickets to suit our style of play. 5 green tops please and watch the returning lesbo-cheat get turned into an S with a series average in the low 20s
 
TopCat said:
We are far too British and look to prepare "good" pitches that give both teams an even chance
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Not sure about that. In 2013 and 2014 we served up some serious green tops to negate the opposition. The Aussies were pretty pissed off about the slow wickets in 2013.
 
smoker said:
Not sure about that. In 2013 and 2014 we served up some serious green tops to negate the opposition. The Aussies were pretty pissed off about the slow wickets in 2013.
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No we didn't, they were normal English pitches, we scored 400 and Root scored 100 on the same day Australia bowled out for 60

Why do you keep pushing this line when its not true

Jack Torrance said:
Stone should have replaced Jimmy like
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Nah, dont hand out caps like they are confetti, Broad is a better bowler

smoker said:
Complete waste of a pick. We should try new things in a dead rubber, give Woakes experience in subcontinent conditions or see what Stone offers.

Is Curran injured? Always seems to be the fall guy, however well he plays.
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He is injured

chunkylover53 said:
Bairstow replaces Curran @The Rat

So how do we line up?

Burns
Jennings
Bairstow
Root
Stokes
Buttler
Ali
Foakes
Rashid
Broad
Leach

That bats very very deep
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Only issue is Ali or Foakes at 7, probs go for foakes
 
smoker said:
Anyone who wants to know what the England regime may be plotting needs only look at the Lions in the UAE, where Gubbins is getting an audition as opener and Roy is batting three.

Jonny needs to sort his head out quick and accept England see him as a batsman, not a wicket-keeper or he won't be playing at all.
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Very true, but he's a much better white ball top-order than Roy imo, let alone red ball - so I back him to do it.

Gubbins is an enigma for me. Looks to have all the talent - against seam especially - and his record for the Lions is very good iirc. Pulled up no trees recently in county cricket though. Would be a punt, though if the perception is horses for courses and he is to seam what Jennings is to spin, can see him playing in the Ashes.

Bri said:
Fast and bouncy might have been true historically but these days they use drop-in pitches and the new stadium does too so the WACA days have gone.

I don't know how you can produce a pitch to swing. Even here Trent Bridge and Lords can be flat if it's a sunny day and there's no swing.

(Maybe the Aussies should use a ball with a more pronounced seam)
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The ball is the big thing - changing from the Kookaburra to the Duke all round the world would make a big difference for bowlers. I mean, no, its still not going to swing in f***ing Sri Lanka. But would certainly help.
 

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