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I agree entirely with your comments about Ali, we should not be asking him, Stokes, Buttler to bat there, we should simply tell Root he has too!

why? then Stokes has to bat at 4

I don't get the obsession ofputting him to 3, I just don't get it

4 is a more important position, its why KP batted there

We would just need to find a number 4 which will be even harder as you are trying to replace a player that averages 50

impossible

Got to say mind Jos Buttler is such a intelligent cricketer in terms of been able to read the situation.

Deciding when is the right and wrong time to attack or defend , his reading of the game is exemplary.

which is why I said all summer he should bat 5 and Bairstow 7!

Only problem with that is the Windies wickets being more like Sri Lanka than England, not sure you'll learn a lot more there. Maybe whether or not Jennings can bat v quicks first up.

Fair point, but they are slower, and lower and flatter

They do spint but windies have some decent quicks, Gabriel is brilliant on his day

As I say I think Sri Lanka and Bangladesh is likenowhere else in the world, we just have to adapt for this tour

Its what Root is trying to promote, a SQUAD of players, including all oiur best cricketers, who can perform in numerous roles and are happy to do so, no egos etc

It is refreshing and I think people who just want an absolute solid top 4 for ever and going to be disappointed as I think it will depend on conditions and what the team needs

If Stokes bowls 20 overs then Buttler will probs come in 3

Its unusual and risky but why not get behind it

Root has done very well this summer since the first test against Pakisan when we just weren't ready, I realy like the way the team is heading

I am slightly annoyed it has taken leach this long to get in, been saying for years, he is a proper proper spinner, and we fannied arround with Batty, Ansari, Patel etc
 
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I don't think it's a question of fair at this level and he's not a kid.

I reckon he'd love the challenge anyway.

Yeah that’s possible as such a good player, however it not soo long ago months in fact when people on this forum were saying it was ridiculous that he was picked for the test side now we talking 3.

Me personally I would much prefer him to come in down the order where I think he would be most effective.

why? then Stokes has to bat at 4

I don't get the obsession ofputting him to 3, I just don't get it

4 is a more important position, its why KP batted there

We would just need to find a number 4 which will be even harder as you are trying to replace a player that averages 50

impossible



which is why I said all summer he should bat 5 and Bairstow 7!



Fair point, but they are slower, and lower and flatter

They do spint but windies have some decent quicks, Gabriel is brilliant on his day

As I say I think Sri Lanka and Bangladesh is likenowhere else in the world, we just have to adapt for this tour

Its what Root is trying to promote, a SQUAD of players, including all oiur best cricketers, who can perform in numerous roles and are happy to do so, no egos etc

It is refreshing and I think people who just want an absolute solid top 4 for ever and going to be disappointed as I think it will depend on conditions and what the team needs

If Stokes bowls 20 overs then Buttler will probs come in 3

Its unusual and risky but why not get behind it

Root has done very well this summer since the first test against Pakisan when we just weren't ready, I realy like the way the team is heading

I am slightly annoyed it has taken leach this long to get in, been saying for years, he is a proper proper spinner, and we fannied arround with Batty, Ansari, Patel etc

I think it’s fair to say we going round in circles with this mate, in a hell of a lot of Roots innings at 4 he has been at the crease very early due to early wickets so effectively has been at the crease as early as a number 3 would anyway.

And scored runs lots of them, it’s just one place higher that’s all it is, however because he is our best batsman by far he is more likely to say at the crease and see off the better bowlers than someone like stokes or throwing in player after player at the deep end.

What I don’t get from either himself or other people is the fact we think he has scored runs because he has been at 4, he has scored runs because he is a quality cricketer, not because where he has been in the order.

It’s not really a question of whether of whether 3 or 4 is the most important position to me.

It’s a question of what’s the most important postition at the moment for England, and to me with our constant early wickets falling test after test 3 is the most important ar the moment.
 
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Yeah that’s possible as such a good player, however it not soo long ago months in fact when people on this forum were saying it was ridiculous that he was picked for the test side now we talking 3.

Me personally I would much prefer him to come in down the order where I think he would be most effective.



I think it’s fair to say we going round in circles with this mate, in a hell of a lot of Roots innings at 4 he has been at the crease very early due to early wickets so effectively has been at the crease as early as a number 3 would anyway.

And scored runs lots of them, it’s just one place higher that’s all it is, however because he is our best batsman by far he is more likely to say at the crease and see off the better bowlers than someone like stokes or throwing in player after player at the deep end.

What I don’t get from either himself or other people is the fact we think he has scored runs because he has been at 4, he has scored runs because he is a quality cricketer, not because where he has been in the order.

It’s not really a question of whether of whether 3 or 4 is the most important position to me.

It’s a question of what’s the most important postition at the moment for England, and to me with our constant early wickets falling test after test 3 is the most important ar the moment.

So it’s just total coincidence he averages 10 more at 4 than 3

It’s clearly not

The stats speak for themselves

It’s the same reason KP never batted at 4

Not looking dangerous here

Get leach on, Ali bowling tripe
 
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Aye Ali has been wank and Rashid still serving up buffet balls. SL will get parity or a lead here on a good turning wicket.
 
Rashid takes some wickets and some gems but Jesus Christ he doesn’t half bowl some bad balls

Aye Ali has been wank and Rashid still serving up buffet balls. SL will get parity or a lead here on a good turning wicket.

They’ve bowled pretty poorly like

I struggle with leg spin when it’s this inconsistent as you just can’t set fields to it

But he did take 2 gems so
 
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Timely reminder still major issues with this team.



Depends how big the lead.

Not sure I agree Sri Lanka been good here, they usually demolish western teams

We don’t have to go the point of crisis every time they have a good day

the pitch seems OK, spinners didn't bowl that well

Would have bowled Stokes more

cracking game developing

You have to admit that Curran is in purely for his batting in these conditions

Leach batting, class, good move :lol:
 
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So it’s just total coincidence he averages 10 more at 4 than 3

It’s clearly not

The stats speak for themselves

It’s the same reason KP never batted at 4

Not looking dangerous here

Get leach on, Ali bowling tripe

So when he has been at the crease in the first 10 overs and scored runs it’s purely because he has come in at 4?

Where as when he has been at the crease in the first ten overs as a 3 he is not as good?
 
So when he has been at the crease in the first 10 overs and scored runs it’s purely because he has come in at 4?

Where as when he has been at the crease in the first ten overs as a 3 he is not as good?

He isn't always batting int he first ten overs at four, most of the time he isn't.

He averages 10 more, its not even up for debate mate, he clearly bats better at 4 than 3, by quite some distance, you can argue as much as you want about it
 

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