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University student stabbed


Super Mario said:
It's a fact that when non-whites make accusations of racial bias with no evidence, they claim unconscious bias. Never seems to work the other way around though

They do and they're wrong most of the time, which is also what's happening here
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I agree with you on both counts, however, any time I've tried to call out the 'unconscious bias' bullshit that is bandied about after a black person is treated badly I get immediately called a racist 🤨
 
Super Mario said:
Perpetrators are known to pretend to be unconscious, dead or injured to then attack uniformed professionals, for example if a paramedic is attacked, defends themselves and the individual they have stopped is unconscious or not breathing they are not necessarily required to give CPR because in instances of the past the perpetrator was pretending and then finished the job, I would love to live in a world where the police can trust what's told to then but given it was lies that prompted the police to arrest the wrong lad I don't think we can live in that world.
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I personally think the policeman acted wrong.

I’ve been in similar situations to the officer and I know judgment calls are split second and can be a matter of life or death.

And I think he got it horribly wrong.

No political motive behind my decision just from what I have watched with my own eyes on the video.

And I am glad it’s getting investigated and we will get the right outcome in a few months. So we will se what’s going to happen
 
brains said:
They arrived with a pre-conception based on a 999 call that had stated what had allegedly taken place (lies) and the police were greeted with a group of people all saying the same thing and one man lay on the floor. I think it's quite normal for the police to initially form some kind of bias based on several people at the scene corroborating what has been said.

But I still think the officer should have dealt with the situation better when he is met with an almost motionless body and the victim stating he couldn't breathe and has been stabbed. This part is a big failing. But it's easy to say that the copper made the mistake "because the family played the racism card"...

The poor lad has lost his life and wankers like Farage are more concerned with politicising the police force for political points scoring and to sow division and possibly incite civil unrest...
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Who all happened to conveniently be family. It wasn’t as if it was several complete strangers corroborating the same story on a busy high street.
 
brains said:
They arrived with a pre-conception based on a 999 call that had stated what had allegedly taken place (lies) and the police were greeted with a group of people all saying the same thing and one man lay on the floor. I think it's quite normal for the police to initially form some kind of bias based on several people at the scene corroborating what has been said.

But I still think the officer should have dealt with the situation better when he is met with an almost motionless body and the victim stating he couldn't breathe and has been stabbed. This part is a big failing. But it's easy to say that the copper made the mistake "because the family played the racism card"...

The poor lad has lost his life and wankers like Farage are more concerned with politicising the police force for political points scoring and to sow division and possibly incite civil unrest...
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If they’d arrived and assessed the situation with no pre-conceptions they’d have reacted properly. Soon as the R word is bandied about they lose their heads. I have no time for Farage and Reform but people are sick of institutions that are determined to paint whites as racist all the time. That’s why he does well. Simple solution btw.
 
One of the coppers invoked in lads arrest has resigned. Farage is just using this to fan the flames of hate and division he lives for . The police who acted were shocking and the kid who done it deserves a lot longer and his family involved needed to be done as well . It’s a knife crime sadly one of countless every week. Farage crawls out from hiding under is rock to use this one to try and set the country on fire he’s despicable
 
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The brother of the murderer rang emergency services requesting the police instead of an ambulance and a paramedic. I think the ambulance personnel would have sharp worked out who needed urgent medical attention. Even the police should have worked it out and certainly somebody should have demanded an answer off the murderers brother by now why he didn't think medical assistance was the priority for the victim. To busy trying to convince racial abuse by a dying man had taken place and any emergency service where health and safety is absolutely paramount the police failed in all aspects of the circumstances where it resulted in a loss of life.
 
Doberman said:
What have I said that is wrong?

They handcuffed a dying man. Apologies for thinking this man was not their priority.

Roles reserved and its a Sikh dying on the floor. Your response would be very different and there'd be f***ing riots on the streets no doubt. 👍
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I mean I wouldn't so you're wrong there they didn't in their minds handcuff a dying man, they believed they were handcuffing a perpetrator or a crime
squavers said:
I agree with you on both counts, however, any time I've tried to call out the 'unconscious bias' bullshit that is bandied about after a black person is treated badly I get immediately called a racist 🤨
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I can't answer for those people but I can say it wouldn't be what I'd accuse you of
mackem1989 said:
I personally think the policeman acted wrong.

I’ve been in similar situations to the officer and I know judgment calls are split second and can be a matter of life or death.

And I think he got it horribly wrong.

No political motive behind my decision just from what I have watched with my own eyes on the video.

And I am glad it’s getting investigated and we will get the right outcome in a few months. So we will se what’s going to happen
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Well I also think the policemen made a bad judgement but the issue is it was made with the best of intentions and not due to anyone's skin colour.

In addition you might read that the judge illustrated how the police came to the wrong conclusion, his clothing apparently being dark meant they didn't see the true extent of his bleeding, humans also don't bleed like it's a kill bill fight scene and wounds can close up quite quickly externally but keep bleeding into the stomach or other parts of the body and the blood sits between the organs, that and it does look quite dark probably all contributed to the bad judgement but as I say that judgement was made with the best of intentions and was misled by the killer himself, it is extremely rare for someone to stab someone then stay in the vicinity and call the police over to have the person stabbed arrested, I'd go as far as to say that the police officers there would never have experienced that before.
 
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