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Lee Johnson

It's only a mistake if you don't learn from it...and he made plenty, both with the lads and up here with hibs!

In saying that however, despite him talking absolute bollocks, I found him strangely likeable? Maybe Parky just ruined me..
 

Mowbray Boss Gilet said:
Some will criticise your opinion, but if he wasn't all Brent then he wouldn't be made out anywhere near as bad as he is.

Yes we progressed after him, but we got lucky in hindsight with Alex Neil who has proven before and after that he is a top level championship manager. Some of the results under Johnson were minging but we weren't in that bad of a position table wise when he got sacked.

Did Johnson deserved to get sacked? At the time probably yes due to the calamity results, but in terms of managers we had in that period, he was one of the better ones?
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No chance we were going up with him. We were on a downward trajectory.
 
Mowbray Boss Gilet said:
Some will criticise your opinion, but if he wasn't all Brent then he wouldn't be made out anywhere near as bad as he is.

Yes we progressed after him, but we got lucky in hindsight with Alex Neil who has proven before and after that he is a top level championship manager. Some of the results under Johnson were minging but we weren't in that bad of a position table wise when he got sacked.

Did Johnson deserved to get sacked? At the time probably yes due to the calamity results, but in terms of managers we had in that period, he was one of the better ones?
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Got a tune out of Charlie Wyke in a way I would never have thought possible
 
Loads of managers here had a tough time because we were a joke

I don’t rate Parkinson but he never had a chance

At Wrexham he’s showed he’s got something, yes in the lower leagues and league 1/2 he had a very good hand but this season he showed he’s not as awful as he deemed to be here

That’s not say I would employ him now or even back then
 
NorthumberlandMackem said:
Agreed but I thought his tenure was more positive than Jack Ross and Parky.

We arguably played more positive attacking football as well, built a better squad.
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Not for me. Ross squandered a great opportunity with a strong squad that had gotten over relegation. Parkinson came in when the team was at its lowest after we had stated season 2 horrendously but made no difference and the MCGeady thing made it worse. LJ had McGeady and Ross Stewart and a good mix of experience much as Danny Batth and cracking young players yet he could set a team up to do the basics of defending culminating in the 6-0. His patter made it worse. He was rubbish imo
 
YES WE GYAN said:
Spot on. Johnson got us moving in the right direction at the start of our upwards journey. We were dreadful on occasion, but people forget that we finished lower in the table under Neil than we were when Johnson was sacked.
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To be fair Neil finished lower as he only took over for the last 3 months of the season from Johnson. He went on a 14 game unbeaten run at the end of season including the playoffs were as Johnson had only won 1 of his last 7 games here before he got the boot.
There was zero chance streaky was taking us up imo.
 
That season was arguably one of the most important in our recent history. We cleared out the likes of Wyke, Power, Scowen, Maguire and later Flanagan and O'Brien, promoted Neil and Patterson and signed Cirkin, Hume, Clarke and Roberts who made massive contributions to where we are. It meant that when we got promoted to the Championship we had players who were growing with us and could build a squad capable of challenging for promotion again for minimal outlay. Which in turn gave us the massive PSR headroom last summer - without that chain of events that wouldn't happen.

Overall Johnson was shit - he was flawed, overly emotional and the younger players looked burnt out. But for the above to happen you need the manager to buy into it - remember we had about 10 players start pre-season and started the season with Dan Neil at left back as we'd had a massive clear out and were still bringing players in. Alex Neil walked out a year later, partly in protest at 'the model' as he wanted to bring in experience - judging by his signings at Stoke, replace 'experience' for dross. Johnson was bang on board with what we were doing and had us playing exciting football at times. I don't think he deserves the ridicule he gets for his contribution.
 
YES WE GYAN said:
Spot on. Johnson got us moving in the right direction at the start of our upwards journey. We were dreadful on occasion, but people forget that we finished lower in the table under Neil than we were when Johnson was sacked.
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We lost 5 of Johnson’s last 14 in charge, including one of the worst defeats in our entire history.

Neil lost 1.

The only direction Johnson was taking us was down.
 
People need to get away from the idea that Ross had a great squad first season down. He had the unsaleable crap left over from a pitiful Championship squad. He had the toughest job of the 3. Getting rid of talentless egos in a dressing room full of failures. Then he had his only decent striker sold from under him and replaced with an overpriced useless bawbag.

Ultimately Ross failed, but Johnson had a better squad and an easier job....and got pummeled 6-0 by Bolton. A low point in the lowest point of my football supporting life.
 
MarcoG said:
Worst manager in our history.

Playing nice football does not negate losing 0-3, 0-4, 1-5 and 0-6 in the third tier and that's without mentioning the end to the previous season which was absolutely disgraceful.
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Worst manager come on man!
 
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