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Leicester or Nottingham Forest

Augustus Winthrop

Augustus Winthrop

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I've just re watched the "I believe in Miracles" documentary about when Cloughie took over Forest, an average second division side (championship now) getting them promoted then winning the top division the following season followed by beating champions Liverpool in the first round of the European cup and going on to win it that season and the next.
So many "experts" say Leicester winning the Premier League was the biggest upset in English football ball but imho Forest's achievement trumps it easily?

I am auld fart so that probably clouds my judgement.
 

Forest for me. Both outstanding but a slice of fortune for Leicester IMO.

A lot of the big clubs were in a transitional phase that year.

They went virtually all year without any major injuries and a consistent line-up.

They did it without building up to it with consistant top 6 finishes, which IMO is the only way clubs outside the top 6 can ever do it. As once big teams become aware of your good players they move for them. Kante, Mahrez, Drinkwater( :D ), etc. All gone the following year or so. We might well find this out in the Summer !

Having said all of that it would be impossible for a club to repeat what Clough did in today's environment with the finances involved so for me that's almost a tick in the Leicester box for what they did achieve.
 
Augustus Winthrop said:
I've just re watched the "I believe in Miracles" documentary about when Cloughie took over Forest, an average second division side (championship now) getting them promoted then winning the top division the following season followed by beating champions Liverpool in the first round of the European cup and going on to win it that season and the next.
So many "experts" say Leicester winning the Premier League was the biggest upset in English football ball but imho Forest's achievement trumps it easily?

I am auld fart so that probably clouds my judgement.
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Forest all day mainly because of Cloughy
 
contrarian said:
Didnt fergie break the dominance of auld firm with Aberdeen and win à euro trophy
That was when Celtic and Rangers (Scottish premier/first division) were much stronger
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Not sure on that. Dundee Utd also won the league during that period & Rangers would regularly finish outside of the top 3. Then when Rangers dominated in early 90s, celtic would often finish outside top 3.
 
Augustus Winthrop said:
I've just re watched the "I believe in Miracles" documentary about when Cloughie took over Forest, an average second division side (championship now) getting them promoted then winning the top division the following season followed by beating champions Liverpool in the first round of the European cup and going on to win it that season and the next.
So many "experts" say Leicester winning the Premier League was the biggest upset in English football ball but imho Forest's achievement trumps it easily?

I am auld fart so that probably clouds my judgement.
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Where can I watch it? Telly or internet? 🤔
 
Lots of examples in books/podcasts/documentaries that Cloughie's Forest were knees deep into bungs and backhanders to get the players they wanted.
Still an impressive feat mind you.
 
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