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Tom Burwell - Interim CEO Podcast

Mowgli said:
But why would they pay £100 a seat rather than do corporate and skip the line like you said. Make absolutely no sense.

Your scenario - £100 a ticket. £3,800 over 2 seasons for regular seating.

My scenario - £3,100 for 1 full season of hospitality and then 1 full season regulsr seating.

Its cheaper and a better overall package to do it that way. You're too busy frothing at the mouth to sit and actually look at the possible manipulations long term.
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Nobody is going coperate to jump the queue. Absolute garbage.
 

JL1985 said:
It's very encouraging that there a big push to improve the off field side of things but a the end of the day, Ghisolfi is still the most important person at the club for me (aside from KLD, RLB and Xhaka). You can have as many fancy sponsorships as you want but if your Director of Football is wasting £75m on the likes of Wesley Fofana or in our case, finding diamonds like Mukiele for £9.6m, it changes everything.
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Yes but arguably you can’t have one without the other.
An unsuccessful team won’t attract a high level of sponsorship or corporate income,
and Ghisolfi needs the income to keep us successful.
We are on an upward spiral that we have not been on for years, all the business stuff comes with the territory.
 
Keith S30S said:
Nobody is going coperate to jump the queue. Absolute garbage.
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Not yet they might not but they might in future years. What happens then? You still didn't give an answer on what the policy should be? Other clubs will absolutely have that problem.
 
Wearson said:
Yes but arguably you can’t have one without the other.
An unsuccessful team won’t attract a high level of sponsorship or corporate income,
and Ghisolfi needs the income to keep us successful.
We are on an upward spiral that we have not been on for years, all the business stuff comes with the territory.
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True.
 
Shack said:
Lots of talk about us being unique, that there's 1 in 10 in the City having season tickets etc. I'm not a season ticket holder these days but it feels to me like the pursuit of Premier League status is going to come at a great cost to the old traditional fan base. For all Bob Murray's faults (which were really just a lack of financial power) he kept prices affordable for the working man and their families. The fan connection they like to spout is true but very easy to just become words as they search out every money making improvement. This is the price of 'success' it seems but it's a great shame that it's going that way.
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But if they build an extra 10 thousand seats there'll be room for all of us.
Plus the Scando Thai US global fanbase

Doubt wed sell out more than 58000 even if it gets better on thepitch.

And he said they wont price the lercals out.
So all good.
Build it and they will come.
 
Mowgli said:
Not yet they might not but they might in future years. What happens then? You still didn't give an answer on what the policy should be? Other clubs will absolutely have that problem.
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Why would I give a single fuck about other clubs?

We need to get our house in order. If the club only care about money they should be happy if an idiot pays for coperate for season to jump the queue. Win win for them.
 
Keith S30S said:
Why would I give a single fuck about other clubs?

We need to get our house in order. If the club only care about money they should be happy if an idiot pays for coperate for season to jump the queue. Win win for them.
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Then you and others will rightly moan that they're looking after people who have a few quid rather than genuine fans waiting in line.
 
adding value to season tickets or membership

how about limited access to training, monthly draws for a limited number of people to go to watch the players training at the academy? meet and greet style
 
GingerNick said:
adding value to season tickets or membership

how about limited access to training, monthly draws for a limited number of people to go to watch the players training at the academy? meet and greet style
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Stuff like that is what would be a winner, though I reckon it's the sort of thing they will end up doing for the lower end premium sales as that's where the value is most lacking at the minute. Founders / 76 yards a bit more palatable if you get the odd bonus like your suggestions.
 
Mowgli said:
Then you and others will rightly moan that they're looking after people who have a few quid rather than genuine fans waiting in line.
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I agree with Keith in that I don't care what other clubs do. I want my club to do what's best for fans. Even if that means they miss out on a bit of revenue.

And on the specific topic you're talking about, the right approach to me is to allow anyone to move to anywhere if there's space, even if that creates an avenue for "queue jumpers".

To me, I think instances of people paying for corporate for year just to allow them to jump the non-corporate queue the next year will be minimal. And unless things change, we've seen that the "waiting list"/"queue" doesn't seem to matter a lot anyway.
 
Provider said:
I agree with Keith in that I don't care what other clubs do. I want my club to do what's best for fans. Even if that means they miss out on a bit of revenue.

And on the specific topic you're talking about, the right approach to me is to allow anyone to move to anywhere if there's space, even if that creates an avenue for "queue jumpers".

To me, I think instances of people paying for corporate for year just to allow them to jump the non-corporate queue the next year will be minimal. And unless things change, we've seen that the "waiting list"/"queue" doesn't seem to matter a lot anyway.
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I agree. The waiting list isn't the size they claim either, no chance. I'm just playing devil's advocate with this and about how they will defend the approach they're taking. It will become an issue if we got successful and if a genuine properly managed waiting list existed, but we aren't there yet and people should be allowed to move.
 
im not roland rat said:
The mags bought out their final year of the Castore deal as Adidas were offering them such a good deal.
Our Hummel / Fanatics deal is poor for a premier league club with a fan base our size. See my posts a few pages back about the Hummel deal.
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Are the staff at the club shop employed by Fanatics, and are Fanatics responsible for running the whole retail operation?
 
Keith S30S said:
So he's basically an ill informed liar. Great start!
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Suppose so Keith. I would say (in the spirit of being totally fair and not just moaning for the sake of it, as I normally do) I think it's pretty a minor point in the scheme of the entire 1.5hr podcast and I though a lot of what he was saying made sense like. But yeah - it would be nice not to spread lies just to get your point across. I daresay there will be others too - is Burnley, Bournemouth and Brighton really totally online? Would be interesting to fact check!

Minor unrelated point - he personally didn't come across well for me in that podcast, in the sense I thought personally he was very unlikable. But, I reckon I also wouldn't want to sit down for a drink with the CEO of Lloyds of London or PWC - doesn't mean I don't respect them for their businesses and the way they drive revenue.
 
HarrogateMackem said:
Suppose so Keith. I would say (in the spirit of being totally fair and not just moaning for the sake of it, as I normally do) I think it's pretty a minor point in the scheme of the entire 1.5hr podcast and I though a lot of what he was saying made sense like. But yeah - it would be nice not to spread lies just to get your point across. I daresay there will be others too - is Burnley, Bournemouth and Brighton really totally online? Would be interesting to fact check!

Minor unrelated point - he personally didn't come across well for me in that podcast, in the sense I thought personally he was very unlikable. But, I reckon I also wouldn't want to sit down for a drink with the CEO of Lloyds of London or PWC - doesn't mean I don't respect them for their businesses and the way they drive revenue.
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Malcolm from the senior supporters is probably ringing round arranging (but not attending) in person visits to ticket offices across the Premier League as we speak and will prove the CEO is talking out of his arse in their next meeting.

I honestly don't know why you would state things as facts when you haven't actually got the facts in front of you? Weird making yourself look a liar and a mug. Then people will be more dubious about your other utterings and pick the bones out of your other comments a lot more closely.
 
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