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ID checks for away tickets

the sleeping giant said:
I've been told by a lad who works on the Man City / Etihad campus that the turnstiles we used at the weekend were only installed this summer, and include facial recognition software.

Whilst it's primarily been put in place to quickly identify those banned from grounds, there is also a suggestion that other PL clubs will follow suit and, in due course, your facial scan at the ground will need to correspond with a photograph held / data received from the issuing club. So basically not dissimilar to these automated passport machines at the airport.

It might take a few years, but I can see it coming and at that point, each PL club will know exactly who is in their ground and if they 'deserve' to be there (on their terms, of course).
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Mental that there hasn’t been any huge problem (terror related etc) at a football ground in the last however many decades if ever and now they feel like they can justify pushing stuff like this on us, seriously, this worlds fucked
 

Hawkings Boots said:
There will still be reasons why people don't go
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Why should I go when this one will make no difference
We will play the reserves

Being the first 2 excuses on the bingo card.

The loyalty system is difficult it is rewarding the ones who went in league 1 which endabled them in the championship. People need to remember that these high point holders did a season of aways when the club said we are just goin to plod along for 5 months. Other people could’ve been that loyal too chances have been there. I went to Cardiff and we didn’t sell the away end out. But I do understand the frustration of fans who can’t get tickets but the majority of phase one have done 60+ games out of the last 80 to be where they are.

I feel for adults who can’t get their kids in now as it feels a closed shop, wait til next season and gaps will appear in the sales in my opinion
 
How would people feel if the club turned round and said for example to help the kids and next generation fans be able to go to away games with every adult ticket bought you can buy a kids ticket but you’d only get half a loyalty point each? Give the kids the chance to build and also the big points atm not to get to far ahead and let other people start to catch up, would that work for peolple?
 
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southside said:
How would people feel if the club turned round and said for example to help the kids and next generation fans be able to go to away games with every adult ticket bought you can buy a kids ticket but you’d only get half a loyalty point each? Give the kids the chance to build and also the big points atm not to get to far ahead and let other people start to catch up, would that work for peolple?
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Call me cynical but I can still see people taking the chance and using child tickets for adults
 
Anyone else remember playing Everton in the cup in 2012 , took about 7000 down , played them in the league a few weeks later about 1000 of us turned out for it .
southside said:
Would do that anyway, I found out the other week a lad we know has been Using a child’s season ticket since the Sol opened 🤯 just kept changing the date of birth never been stopped yet he’s in his mid 30’s 🤯🤦
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Quite happy to see the club take legal action to recover lost revenue if and when they find who it is.

Scumbag criminal behaviour.
 
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southside said:
How would people feel if the club turned round and said for example to help the kids and next generation fans be able to go to away games with every adult ticket bought you can buy a kids ticket but you’d only get half a loyalty point each? Give the kids the chance to build and also the big points atm not to get to far ahead and let other people start to catch up, would that work for peolple?
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surely by doing that, you make it more difficult for yourself in future as those that don't do that gain a half point of you? thus the potential to slip down a phase.
 
chicken nugget said:
surely by doing that, you make it more difficult for yourself in future as those that don't do that gain a half point of you? thus the potential to slip down a phase.
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Not really you’d only have to do that till your u18 is at the phase's and has enough points thenselfs then can just get them as normal
buster said:
Anyone else remember playing Everton in the cup in 2012 , took about 7000 down , played them in the league a few weeks later about 1000 of us turned out for it .



Quite happy to see the club take legal action to recover lost revenue if and when they find who it is.

Scumbag criminal behaviour.
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Had it since roker park so I can imagine it would be a high bill
 
southside said:
How would people feel if the club turned round and said for example to help the kids and next generation fans be able to go to away games with every adult ticket bought you can buy a kids ticket but you’d only get half a loyalty point each? Give the kids the chance to build and also the big points atm not to get to far ahead and let other people start to catch up, would that work for peolple?
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Why not use the averaging points that they used to but only in cases where it’s an under 14/18 applying with an adult at the same address? So dad and son can apply together, father has 50 points and son has none - effectively puts them both on 25 points and can only apply at that phase, if successful both get a point. Would help reduce some with high points just buying/selling on and help young uns get some points of their own
 
Penshaw1 said:
Why not use the averaging points that they used to but only in cases where it’s an under 14/18 applying with an adult at the same address? So dad and son can apply together, father has 50 points and son has none - effectively puts them both on 25 points and can only apply at that phase, if successful both get a point. Would help reduce some with high points just buying/selling on and help young uns get some points of their own
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Sounds better than my way of be happy for thst
 
I'm sure you'll be fine for tickets. Around 8,000 tickets will be available with Spurs - Sat (A) & Brentford - Wed (A) the week before.

Guinness Guzzler said:
I'll almost certainly try and take the bairn to his first away game for Everton, but tbh I'm not sure he'll get a ticket even for this one. New ground, and loads of people haven't been able to go to any this season, so I have a feeling it'll sell sell out well before the "any season ticket holder" phase
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the sleeping giant said:
I've been told by a lad who works on the Man City / Etihad campus that the turnstiles we used at the weekend were only installed this summer, and include facial recognition software.

Whilst it's primarily been put in place to quickly identify those banned from grounds, there is also a suggestion that other PL clubs will follow suit and, in due course, your facial scan at the ground will need to correspond with a photograph held / data received from the issuing club. So basically not dissimilar to these automated passport machines at the airport.

It might take a few years, but I can see it coming and at that point, each PL club will know exactly who is in their ground and if they 'deserve' to be there (on their terms, of course).
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Yes - this has been discussed and correlate's with the new CCTV system they have installed, in & around the ground and keel crossing.

I was at a Malaga game earlier this year and they have finger print scanning to access some parts of the ground. Granted it was the ultras stand but shows the possibilities we may adopt.
the sleeping giant said:
I've been told by a lad who works on the Man City / Etihad campus that the turnstiles we used at the weekend were only installed this summer, and include facial recognition software.

Whilst it's primarily been put in place to quickly identify those banned from grounds, there is also a suggestion that other PL clubs will follow suit and, in due course, your facial scan at the ground will need to correspond with a photograph held / data received from the issuing club. So basically not dissimilar to these automated passport machines at the airport.

It might take a few years, but I can see it coming and at that point, each PL club will know exactly who is in their ground and if they 'deserve' to be there (on their terms, of course).
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Yes - this has been discussed and correlate's with the new CCTV system they have installed, in & around the ground and keel crossing.

I was at a Malaga game earlier this year and they have finger print scanning to access some parts of the ground. Granted it was the ultras stand but shows the possibiliies
 
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buster said:
Anyone else remember playing Everton in the cup in 2012 , took about 7000 down , played them in the league a few weeks later about 1000 of us turned out for it .



Quite happy to see the club take legal action to recover lost revenue if and when they find who it is.

Scumbag criminal behaviour.
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Iirc,

The cup game was on the Saturday and the league game was midweek, slightly easier for the Saturday game to travel.
 
penno13 said:
Mental that there hasn’t been any huge problem (terror related etc) at a football ground in the last however many decades if ever and now they feel like they can justify pushing stuff like this on us, seriously, this worlds fucked
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Problem is it only has to happen once and it would be catastrophic with so many people in such a small space

Look at the Manchester arena attack - never happened before either.
 
penno13 said:
Mental that there hasn’t been any huge problem (terror related etc) at a football ground in the last however many decades if ever and now they feel like they can justify pushing stuff like this on us, seriously, this worlds fucked
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It's why Digital ID's are so controversial. On one hand it'll be sold as a way of keeping us 'safe', and checking who is on the database and who isn't (i.e. illegal immigrants & others who manage to keep off the governments radar).... i.e. because we want others to pay their share of tax.

On the other side, you are allowing the government to hold all sorts of info on you and to then link it to other data - whether that be financial, 'movement' or other interests (think gun licences and similar).

It's scary, big brother stuff... especially when you consider the frequency of large-scale hacks that are already happening to huge organisations such as major retailers and the NHS (not to mention things like that lass banned from Sid James for daring to publish controversial views on social media).

There's a horrible inevitability about it. The population controlled and coerced by data and 'snooping' on your day-to-day life, perhaps not just by your own government but others, too.

F**K! All of this just from some cameras installed at football turnstiles!! Think I might be full-on paranoid!!
 
Hawkings Boots said:
Roker Report in on it now - anyone know what branches have been told?

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Interesting. Not sure why anyone would object to being reminded that tickets should not be sold or passed on because that's all it is, a reminder. It would be useful to have greater clarity from the club on this matter generally and specifically what they're really trying to stop and what the penalties will be for those who offend
 
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