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Either that or their All World one. It still around 70% USA but gives some exposure to the rest of the world. Downside is that the fees are marginally higher because of the international trading costs but still way cheaper than a traditional managed fund.

I got notification the other day their all world etf charges were reducing, not looked into how much by yet though but good news.
 
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Either that or their All World one. It still around 70% USA but gives some exposure to the rest of the world. Downside is that the fees are marginally higher because of the international trading costs but still way cheaper than a traditional managed fund.
An alternative to the All World ETF is a mixture of 90% Developed World ETF (fees are fraction of All World) and 10% Emerging Markets ETF (fees similat to All World, but you buy a lot less of it)

Similar coverage, and a small saving in fees which will compound up over time.
 
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Its things like this that make me think a bubble is due to burst
It depends how long you want to be in, it will always go up and down but over the long term it will grow. Maybes a correction soon but it does seem to be going against it

The aboves an issue if it’s home loans
 
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Its things like this that make me think a bubble is due to burst

Is it not just that demand for commercial property has collapsed, more and more leases are ending and can't be replaced at rents needed to pay the bills, and landlords are running out of money to plug the gaps?

I'm not sure this metric is much use to spot trends any more. Covid was a once in an epoch shift for the economics of commercial property.
 
I'm not sure this metric is much use to spot trends any more. Covid was a once in an epoch shift for the economics of commercial property.
The chart isn't about Covid though, its the 2008 crash.

But yes, I think it is about commercial property.
 
The chart isn't about Covid though, its the 2008 crash.

But yes, I think it is about commercial property.
It's about neither Covid nor the 2008 crash. It is about the delinquency rate in Commercial Mortgage Backed Securities comprising mortgages on offices, over time.

It covers both the Covid period and the 2008 crash period.

The point you make is (or at least I infer that it is) is that the economy now must be worse than the economy in the years following the 2008 crash, because of the bigger spike in the CMBS (Office) delinquency rates.

The point I make is that the bottom has dropped out of commercial property since Covid, particularly office space, because of the major shift to home or hybrid working which continues to this day. That shift has unquestionably resulted in many tenants reducing their office space, downward pressure on rents, and increased "empty property" periods. Downward pressure on rents and increased "empty property" time cause problems for landlords whose mortgages form part of CMBS. In some cases, this will mean the landlords cannot pay their mortgages, thereby increasing the delinquency rate, independently of underlying economic conditions.

My follow up point is that this chart is not useful to draw comparisons between the 2008 crash and now, because of an underlying factor now that was not present in 2008 onwards.

There may be a bubble, I don't know. But I would look for it other than in this chart or its underlying data.
 
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It's about neither Covid nor the 2008 crash. It is about the delinquency rate in Commercial Mortgage Backed Securities comprising mortgages on offices, over time.

It covers both the Covid period and the 2008 crash period.

The point you make is (or at least I infer that it is) is that the economy now must be worse than the economy in the years following the 2008 crash, because of the bigger spike in the CMBS (Office) delinquency rates.

The point I make is that the bottom has dropped out of commercial property since Covid, particularly office space, because of the major shift to home or hybrid working which continues to this day. That shift has unquestionably resulted in many tenants reducing their office space, downward pressure on rents, and increased "empty property" periods. Downward pressure on rents and increased "empty property" time cause problems for landlords whose mortgages form part of CMBS. In some cases, this will mean the landlords cannot pay their mortgages, thereby increasing the delinquency rate, independently of underlying economic conditions.

My follow up point is that this chart is not useful to draw comparisons between the 2008 crash and now, because of an underlying factor now that was not present in 2008 onwards.

There may be a bubble, I don't know. But I would look for it other than in this chart or its underlying data.
That's fair.
Suppose the point that whoever put this is out is that rather than the chart being a symptom of a crash, as in 2008, could it be the driver of a crash in 2025/6
 
I got notification the other day their all world etf charges were reducing, not looked into how much by yet though but good news.
I think VWRP/VWRL fees are reducing from 0.22 to 0.19%. So £3 saving on every £10,000 invested (£19 instead of £22). Every little helps.
 
That's fair.
Suppose the point that whoever put this is out is that rather than the chart being a symptom of a crash, as in 2008, could it be the driver of a crash in 2025/6
Maybe. I'm not convinced. CMBS volumes are peanuts compared to the madness with home mortgages in the run up to 2008.
 
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I think previous crashes have had different circumstances to what's happening now.

I'm anticipating a US market downturn due to tariffs, jobs market etc. Also possibly a correction due to the boom in AI/Tech share prices, but as long as tech companies keep delivering and showing potential for future growth, people will keep investing there.

Truth is nobody knows, just invest your money wisely depending on your approach to risk.
 
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