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Style of Play


Must admit I think our high press is a myth, never mind a manic press. I was expecting it first game of season at Cardiff and it was anything but. We have a very occasional high press.

It isn’t, and I don’t believe, ever has been our default system.
Boro at home showed it was a myth. Boro were passing the ball around at the back just a few minutes into the game expecting us to come flooding forward. We sat in shape in our own half while they did it.
 
Boro at home showed it was a myth. Boro were passing the ball around at the back just a few minutes into the game expecting us to come flooding forward. We sat in shape in our own half while they did it.
It worked back then because we were absolutely solid and the back and never conceded goals.

We’ve conceded 2 in 3 games in a row which I reckon is our worst defensive run of the season.
 
Must admit I think our high press is a myth, never mind a manic press. I was expecting it first game of season at Cardiff and it was anything but. We have a very occasional high press.

It isn’t, and I don’t believe, ever has been our default system.
We've very rarely used a high press. The tactic is to be very organised and wait for the ball to get into midfield then pounce. That didn't really materialise in the first half yesterday then when we went behind we had no option but to engage higher up the pitch.
 
When RLB came in, the first month saw us blow teams away with the high press, powerful and clinical counter attacking.

What's happened? What's changed?

Started to drop off in November and then I thought start of the year when RLB went 4-4-2, we would see it return but hasn't materialised.

Mind he's still done a very good job as the league position doesn't lie but can't help feel like the style of play has regressed.

We've also dropped a lot of points as well, lack of subs or negative subs and sitting back to invite unnecessary pressure.
RLB has explained this - he learned that the squad players weren’t good enough and he couldn’t play the same 11-12 players with the high press for three games a week - so he changed the setup.
 
It worked back then because we were absolutely solid and the back and never conceded goals.

We’ve conceded 2 in 3 games in a row which I reckon is our worst defensive run of the season.
Yesterday we were far too one dimensional. Having Jobe and Mundle in the side completely changes us as they are the ones that get us up that end of the pitch and keep us there.
 
When RLB came in, the first month saw us blow teams away with the high press, powerful and clinical counter attacking.

What's happened? What's changed?

Started to drop off in November and then I thought start of the year when RLB went 4-4-2, we would see it return but hasn't materialised.

Mind he's still done a very good job as the league position doesn't lie but can't help feel like the style of play has regressed.

We've also dropped a lot of points as well, lack of subs or negative subs and sitting back to invite unnecessary pressure.
We still do it, but I think irs pretty difficult to keep that intensity up for 46 games, which is why we start with I density then sit back for a bit and then try again.
 
Yesterday we were far too one dimensional. Having Jobe and Mundle in the side completely changes us as they are the ones that get us up that end of the pitch and keep us there.
Mundle makes a massive difference. A genuine ball carrier with pace and trickery who is an outlet. Roberts carries the ball but is so pedestrian in his movement.
 
Mundle makes a massive difference. A genuine ball carrier with pace and trickery who is an outlet. Roberts carries the ball but is so pedestrian in his movement.
Roberts is very predictable. You just know any attack that he's involved in will pretty much end up breaking down and giving the opposition possession.
 
Something changed, we got just 3 points less in our first 12 games than we have in the 19 since. Only 31 points in 19 games is why we are 4th and not in the top two. Don't get me wrong, we are doing better than I thought we would but after such an impressive start it still manages to feel a little disappointing


Where do we lack depth? We've got 2 or 3 players in every single position. We lack reliably fit players, not depth

We need a propa centre-forward our two 'strikers' have scored 14 between them (hopefully Jayden Danns will be fit soon) and a settled tighter defence.
 
The style of play is a bit frustrating at times we were losing yesterday yet happy for Watford to have the ball.

But what’s cost us is not being clinical at key moments. Even yesterday a clinical team takes one of those 2 chances at the end and takes the extra 2 points. Millwall, Blackburn, Stoke, Burnley, Plymouth, Watford, the list is too long to sustain a top 2 push.
 
When RLB came in, the first month saw us blow teams away with the high press, powerful and clinical counter attacking.

What's happened? What's changed?

Started to drop off in November and then I thought start of the year when RLB went 4-4-2, we would see it return but hasn't materialised.

Mind he's still done a very good job as the league position doesn't lie but can't help feel like the style of play has regressed.

We've also dropped a lot of points as well, lack of subs or negative subs and sitting back to invite unnecessary pressure.
We lost the left side in November
 
I would say nothing has changed apart from putting Samed in for the 2 homes games where we have dropped points in very winnable gwmes. I would also add that fans frustrations are mostly down to the fact it that we aren’t playing well or using a system that doesn’t suit, but rather we have fluffed our lines each time we have had a chance to lose the gap. Too many games where we have had chances to win it such asst Sheff u and Burnley and at home dropped points that we shouldn’t have which has been down to not taking our chances.
 
Boro at home showed it was a myth. Boro were passing the ball around at the back just a few minutes into the game expecting us to come flooding forward. We sat in shape in our own half while they did it.
And it baffled them because they didn't know what to do. We weren't pressing, but we were closing down all their forward padding lines.
 
When RLB came in, the first month saw us blow teams away with the high press, powerful and clinical counter attacking.

What's happened? What's changed?

Started to drop off in November and then I thought start of the year when RLB went 4-4-2, we would see it return but hasn't materialised.

Mind he's still done a very good job as the league position doesn't lie but can't help feel like the style of play has regressed.

We've also dropped a lot of points as well, lack of subs or negative subs and sitting back to invite unnecessary pressure.

The high press for me is a red herring. I think RLB clocked that it would burn the squad out playing at that initially furious tempo. And it would have. I suspect he was actually using games as high intensity conditioning early on. Two birds, one stone.

It would be nice to see us get it out the bag more often. But my main problem with RLB is that it seems he is naturally conservative when 1-0 up. His first thought is to drop off and lower the block. I assume he thinks it’s because we are great at counter attack. But what happens more often than not is that we let a side we have reeling back into the game.

Yesterday was the perfect example. But it’s been happening all year if we’re honest. Home, away, high press, low press, it doesn’t matter. It’s his style of game management.

Worrying, because it’s not how you get out this league automatically. Leeds don’t do it. You have to keep your foot on a teams throat in English football.
 
The high-press is a myth. We did it once against Burnley early in the season.

Cardiff - low-block
Sheff Wed - mid-block - we allowed them to play it into midfield then pounced when they approached the halfway line
Burnley - high press
Portsmouth - mid-block
Plymouth - mid-block first half then bit all over the place second half
Boro - low-block

We couldn't even get out our own half in the first half against Watford following that, never mind press high. We did set traps and press on triggers during that run though which has dropped off.

I think the Plymouth and Watford games scarred RLB for starters, we were far too open and conceded after we went hunting for late winners. We were much more cautious and controlled against Hull in the next game after Watford and from then onwards. Think we also started to see signs of fatigue around November as he'd essentially ran the same 13-14 players into the ground and rarely made substitutions, plus injuries to Mundle and Watson. We've played without a left winger for over a 3rd of the season now.

Once Mundle returns in the next few games we'll have more or less a full squad available bar Alese and Huggins, who I'd write off anyway. That has to be the trigger for us to be a bit more aggressive again and stop worrying about controlling games and grinding out 1-0s. But we'll see.
 
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