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Enzo Le Fee 🇨🇵 Signed!

I did see that mentioned but I also seem to recall a quote from someone from the Zenit board saying that we are paying towards his wages iirc.

I think it's plausible we are contributing to his wage but we are making on that its completely free to not raise any questions .
Indeed, we aren’t making a squeak of any comment about what the conditions are or if it’s permanent at the end of the season. Maybe we were hoping the war may have ended before this summer thus making the situation easier, but it is of course still going.
 

Ya chatting shit if you think we won’t spend some canny money if we go up mind. Premier league money is a whole different ball game ffs.

If it’s in our model and it’s an exciting talent we will see 20m bids etc.

Just pure ignorance to think we would be any different to other clubs.

We have been increasing our fees the more profit we bring in.

Not sure where this whole attitude comes from
 
Risk is relative. We've spent 3 million on a kid who isn't starting in the Championship and seem pretty relaxed about it. Last year we spent roughly the same on Birmingham's 3rd best youth prospect. That’s big stakes at this level.

IF we get to the PL we aren't suddenly going to decide we can finally afford Kieffer Moore.
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I think we’d be fairly cautious but the model has spent fairly competitively outside of clubs with parachute money or that have made big sales so i think we’d spend on the right players. Probably not 100m but more than 50m.

I don't see it myself, as big transfer fees come with big wages, and the club will know that there would be a high expectation that we'd be one of the favourites to go back down again, along with an expectation to spend again to challenge for promotion. Prudent, cautious, and sustainable will continue to be the clubs buzzwords.

Let's hope we get to find out either way.
 
I did see that mentioned but I also seem to recall a quote from someone from the Zenit board saying that we are paying towards his wages iirc.

I think it's plausible we are contributing to his wage but we are making on that its completely free to not raise any questions .
Saw that quote too and that a fee was agreed for £4m... given that there are sanctions in place not sure.. how we would pay that
 
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Ya chatting shit if you think we won’t spend some canny money if we go up mind. Premier league money is a whole different ball game ffs.

If it’s in our model and it’s an exciting talent we will see 20m bids etc.

Just pure ignorance to think we would be any different to other clubs.

We have been increasing our fees the more profit we bring in.

Not sure where this whole attitude comes from
We won't be spending £50mill on one player though, which is what was suggested...no chance.
 
AI's opinion on how likely he is to sign and how well he'd do:

Realism of Signing for Sunderland:
Current Interest: There have been reports and discussions on social platforms indicating that Sunderland has made inquiries about signing Enzo Le Fée from AS Roma. This interest seems to stem from an explicit request by Sunderland's coach, Régis Le Bris, who previously worked with Le Fée at Lorient. This connection could facilitate the transfer, suggesting there is some level of realism in this move. However, several factors need consideration:
Transfer Fee: Le Fée was bought by Roma for around €23 million, suggesting his market value is still high. Sunderland, being in the Championship, might not have the financial muscle to match what Roma would expect in a transfer fee, especially for a player of Le Fée's caliber unless it's a loan deal or Roma agrees to a significantly reduced fee due to his limited playing time.
Player's Ambition: Given Le Fée's profile and the interest he's garnered from other clubs, including Real Betis, his ambition might lie in continuing in one of Europe's top leagues rather than moving to the Championship, which is the second tier of English football.
Roma's Position: Roma's willingness to let him go, especially in the middle of the season, depends on their squad needs, financial situation, and the player's own desire for more playing time.

Performance in the Championship:
Adaptability: Le Fée has shown versatility and quality in Ligue 1, one of Europe's competitive leagues. His skills in passing, vision, and tactical understanding could translate well to the Championship, where technical ability combined with work rate can be particularly effective.
Strengths: His ability to control the game's tempo, distribute the ball effectively, and contribute defensively would be assets in the Championship, where many teams rely on physicality but also value technical midfielders who can dictate play.
Challenges: The Championship is known for its grueling schedule and physical demands, which might initially challenge Le Fée, given that his physicality has been noted as an area for improvement. However, his football intelligence and adaptability could help him adjust.
Impact:
If Le Fée were to sign for Sunderland, he could potentially become a pivotal player in their midfield, offering creativity and control that could elevate their promotion push. His previous experience under Le Bris could also mean a smoother integration into the team's tactics.
However, the transition from Serie A to the Championship might require some adaptation, particularly in terms of the game's pace and physicality. His performance would likely hinge on how quickly he can adapt to these differences.

Given the information available, while a transfer to Sunderland isn't out of the realm of possibility, especially with the coach's connection, the financial and ambition factors make it less than certain. If he does move to Sunderland, his impact could be significant, potentially making him one of the standout players in the league, assuming he adapts well to the Championship's style of play.
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Those that are claiming we'd never spend £50m on a player ... are failing to acknowledge the rapid inflation that happens in player valuation ... so right now it's a no go but 5 or 10 years time it'll probably happen
 
Ya chatting shit if you think we won’t spend some canny money if we go up mind. Premier league money is a whole different ball game ffs.

If it’s in our model and it’s an exciting talent we will see 20m bids etc.

Just pure ignorance to think we would be any different to other clubs.

We have been increasing our fees the more profit we bring in.

Not sure where this whole attitude comes from
Unfortunately, many people are simply incredibly dim. They take a position and no matter what the evidence, they hold it
 
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We won't be spending £50mill on one player though, which is what was suggested...no chance.
Oh aye, i find that to be a bit too much, not many clubs do that in the PL, we will be more the brighton route, but they finally spent near that amount after a few years of making profits on rutter didn't they
 
We won't be spending £50mill on one player though, which is what was suggested...no chance.
I'm assuming Andy meant in the distant future should all go well and we have a consistent turnover of solid recruitment that continues to go for much more than we purchased them for, similar to Brighton or to a lesser extent Brentford as they don't seem to pay the larger fees Brighton tend to.

That being said I think it would be a lot of money to spend for a club like ours, no matter how successful our recruitment and sales, but in Andy's example if we were ever in a position to give a player from a top academy or tearing it up in the Championship (similar to Rigg and Jobe) who clearly have talent, a home we may be in a position with good foundations, even if at what is currently perceived to be an inflated fee for our position?
 
If we get promoted I couldn’t see us spending any more than £15m to £20m on a player.
If that’s what the board are thinking we might as well stay here. £15-£20m signs you a bang average PL player or one that will perform very well in the Championship following the inevitable relegation. Jack Clarke for example.
 
If that’s what the board are thinking we might as well stay here. £15-£20m signs you a bang average PL player or one that will perform very well in the Championship following the inevitable relegation. Jack Clarke for example.
Don't be daft. That's a massive signing for anyone but the biggest clubs.
 
Oh aye, i find that to be a bit too much, not many clubs do that in the PL, we will be more the brighton route, but they finally spent near that amount after a few years of making profits on rutter didn't they
Yeah, 40mill I think?...but, like you say, that's after a few seasons in the Prem. The original debate was poster saying KLD could spend 50 mill next season on one player if we go up ...that just won't happen.
 
People need to understand how much transfer fees have increased since we were last in the Prem. 14 out of the current PL teams have spent 40m or more on a single player. If a promoted club stays there, that's the sort of going rate you need to spend to push on
 
Those that are claiming we'd never spend £50m on a player ... are failing to acknowledge the rapid inflation that happens in player valuation ... so right now it's a no go but 5 or 10 years time it'll probably happen
If we get promoted we might not be too far off. Forest paid (25m rising to 42m) for Gibbs-White 2.5 years ago. Granted he looks very good now but at the time that fee was frowned upon. Newcastle sold that Anderson for 30m this summer. 30-40m is the going rate for a mid to high premier league player now
 
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