Jack Clarke

[Onlyfoolsrushin]

Clarkey is good enough for the PL but he needs to be played in his correct position as has been shown by his limited opportunities at Ipswich where he's been poorly managed. He isn't adaptable enough to play different roles.

I hope he succeeds, as he seems a good lad.

 

[Mace]

Clarke is very much a rhythm player. He isnt getting any rhythm playing 15 mins here and there. Not to mention being asked to play as a narrow wide man, a role that just isnt him as a player.

 

[Georgewhitt]

Clarke is very much a rhythm player. He isnt getting any rhythm playing 15 mins here and there. Not to mention being asked to play as a narrow wide man, a role that just isnt him as a player.

I get that marra, but he is not good enough in his favoured position in the Premier League to be given that freedom, or focus the play around him.

Our current level...yes.

Premier League in Ipswiches position....No.

 

[T S Garp]

Good to hear, too much farting on with his curtains during games

Gives him more time to adjust his shorts

 

[Mallard]

It baffles me that more clubs weren’t in for him.

 

[Georgewhitt]

It baffles me that more clubs weren’t in for him.

Why?

And what level of club should have been in fir him in your opinion?

 

[Boz33]

He’s a winger playing in a team that is gonna be under the cosh in most games. It’s also the premier league so most defenders are bigger, stronger and faster than a lot of the championship plodders and you will be closed down/ marked a lot tighter, so you have to be on your game every week, and every chance you get.
If/ when we go up, a lot of the players we think are doing great this year will look like plodders against the better quality that’s in the prem. that’s nothing against the lads, it’s just a fact of life. And most wingers have to work their areas off too, up and down that line, chasing down and defending when they haven’t the ball

Was always gonna be hard for Clarke going to the prem in an Ipswich side that will be hammered for possession most weeks so chances to shine for a winger won’t come often. I suspect in a better team, with better players around him he’d look a lot better but if no one comes in for you, it’s either sit in the championship not really pushing yourself or take the gamble and try ya luck at somewhere like Ipswich.

Been loads of players that dominate the championship, yet when they step up to the prem they don’t look half as good as they did

 

[Thewall]

Trippier is not average marra.
He is a superb player in his position.
Better players than JC will be "found out" against him.

He was in awful form at that time to the point he was arguing with fans

No it didn’t. It was one game where we didn’t turn up under Beale.

If you want to play by your own rules, he showed he was a good premiership player the season before when he scored 2 in 2 against Fulham.

Mental how many people mention the mags game and how it proved he wouldn’t make it as a premiership player

What does the rest of the sample size say? Let’s not kid ourselves, that was a second string Fulham team in both games

 

[riffraff]

He’s a winger playing in a team that is gonna be under the cosh in most games. It’s also the premier league so most defenders are bigger, stronger and faster than a lot of the championship plodders and you will be closed down/ marked a lot tighter, so you have to be on your game every week, and every chance you get.
If/ when we go up, a lot of the players we think are doing great this year will look like plodders against the better quality that’s in the prem. that’s nothing against the lads, it’s just a fact of life. And most wingers have to work their areas off too, up and down that line, chasing down and defending when they haven’t the ball

Was always gonna be hard for Clarke going to the prem in an Ipswich side that will be hammered for possession most weeks so chances to shine for a winger won’t come often. I suspect in a better team, with better players around him he’d look a lot better but if no one comes in for you, it’s either sit in the championship not really pushing yourself or take the gamble and try ya luck at somewhere like Ipswich.

Been loads of players that dominate the championship, yet when they step up to the prem they don’t look half as good as they did

Spot on.

 

[Cappuccino Kid]

It baffles me that more clubs weren’t in for him.

Not really. I think he’s one of those players who is very good in the Championship, but perhaps doesn’t have the attributes to make it as a consistent PL performer. Hence why there was such a lack of interest, especially at a fairly modest price. Contrast to someone like Morgan Rogers, whose record wasn’t as good as Clarke, but a team chasing the Champions League bought in him. Clearly something about him that those in the game don’t see with Clarke.

He gets a raw deal about leaving for the money, mind. By all accounts he didn’t particularly want to leave, and it was more the club who forced his hand.

 

[riffraff]

In the PL he’s a one position only player imho.
I’d also hazard a guess that the recruitment departments of most other PL clubs are of a similar opinion. Meaning it’d be £15m + wages spent on a player who’d need a squad number and a specific formation and to be subbed if mid game tactical adjustments were needed……..and that’s before even deciding if he’s PL quality.
PL clubs have the whole world to pluck players from with only maybe ten clubs on the planet outside the PL able to challenge for their choices. The games gone and I hope he proves me wrong.

 

[Redby-lad]

He was in awful form at that time to the point he was arguing with fans

What does the rest of the sample size say? Let’s not kid ourselves, that was a second string Fulham team in both games

He didn't half bring his 'A' game for the Derby though. He thrived on us taking the piss out of him about cheating on his wife too. Just a shite day all round.

 

[mackemdr]

Hes suffering from the fact Ipswich don't play with wingers and Szmodics has been put there.

Clarke's game is he picks the ball out wide and then runs directly at the full back wide to narrow using his pace.

The role hes being asked to play is better suited for a player like Roberts, better in tight areas and game not revolving around explosive pace

 

[Jokei84]

I don't.


Exactly, he didn't get a kick.

To be fair most of the team was garbage in the derby.

 

[G Force]

What does the rest of the sample size say?

He might go onto have a good top flight career, he might end up being a very good championship player, but you can’t use that one match in isolation. If you’re using the mags game to prove he isn’t prem quality then you’re utterly clueless mate, so might as well end it there

 

[harryCLSsafc]

Said it before on here but what's transpiring at Ipswich isn't new for him.

At every other club he has struggled and the only place he could ever reasonably call "home" was at Sunderland - where he played every week and fit right in with the club and the rest of the lads.

He never fit in at Leeds, Spurs out anywhere else where he was shunted around on loan etc.

 

[Ale taster]

Wants to find a new agent or grow up and represent himself.
Very badly advised.
One more season with us and he would have secured that pay day with a steady PL club for many years to come.

 

[FoldingStars]

In the PL he’s a one position only player imho.
I’d also hazard a guess that the recruitment departments of most other PL clubs are of a similar opinion. Meaning it’d be £15m + wages spent on a player who’d need a squad number and a specific formation and to be subbed if mid game tactical adjustments were needed……..and that’s before even deciding if he’s PL quality.
PL clubs have the whole world to pluck players from with only maybe ten clubs on the planet outside the PL able to challenge for their choices. The games gone and I hope he proves me wrong.

I’ve said it before but I think he’d have been in a much better position turning Ipswich down and telling us he will give 100% but won’t be signing a new deal. No way would we have left him in the bench or not played to his strengths, that means in January or the end of the season he’d be nowhere near £15m plus wages so other clubs would then be in for him who aren’t fighting relegation, playing a style that doesn’t suit him and where he has to hit the ground running.

Teams the level of Brentford, Palace, Everton (new owners), or Fulham would all be looking at him if he only had 12 months left on a contract if we didn’t get promoted and they could have got him for a hell of a lot less than £15m. Those teams would suit him much better and not one where he’s defending 70% of the game then feeding on scraps in the odd minutes he gets.

 

[Mboma]

It's still probably the hardest league in the world and he's gone to a team that were huge favorites to struggle and come straight back down. On top of that, his head coach has decided to play him in a different role to the one that seen him earn a move to the top tier in the first place, which is the most baffling thing of all.

I doubt Jack thought going up to the top level with Ipswich was going to be a walk in the park. I doubt he thought he'd be playing week in/out, but the lad obviously thought he'd deserved a crack at it and I certainly think he did. He's been rewarded with a contract that he wouldn't get here and is testing himself, playing against some of the biggest clubs in football.

Even when they come down next season, he'll be part of a team that will be favorites to gupstraight back up, still be earning huge money in the Championship, and mayeven be playing under a new head coach, who knows how to get the best out of him.....its hardly been a nightmare for the lad has it

 

[harryCLSsafc]

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A couple of their fans already suggesting he should be loaned out. He's come full circle....