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Browne, Neil and Jobe


I think Rigg is very unlucky to miss out on a start on the opening day but that's the 3 I'd go with. Rigg will make 40+ appearances if he stays fit anyway so I'm not worried about it.

Hopefully we see us press like we did yesterday and for the first half at Blackpool.
 
Mboma said:
A lot of teams cut straight through our midfield causing us to concede. A good DCM would have stopped a lot of those goals.
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Last season we were about fifth best in terms of goals conceded and seventh worst in terms of goals scored. You don't need to be a genius to work out which end of the pitch the big problems lie.

I'm not going to go and look at every goal we conceded last season to try and determine whether a DCM would have prevented any, never mind a lot of them. As it's your premise, it's down to you to provide evidence of which goals a DCM would have prevented.
 
Windypants said:
Last season we were about fifth best in terms of goals conceded and seventh worst in terms of goals scored. You don't need to be a genius to work out which end of the pitch the big problems lie.

I'm not going to go and look at every goal we conceded last season to try and determine whether a DCM would have prevented any, never mind a lot of them. As it's your premise, it's down to you to provide evidence of which goals a DCM would have prevented.
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Look at the difference Rodri makes and Kante, Makelele, Essien and tell me a good DCM isn't an important element of a good team.
 
Twisted said:
Neither of those seem likely
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Without wishing to rehash the principles of biomechanics amongst maturing athletes, for some athletes, bones mature faster than muscles, for others, they mature at the same rate and for some, muscle matures faster than bone. There are scientific studies on this. What that means is that the athletes whose bone / muscle maturity is progressing at different speeds, they are more likely to suffer injuries when they're young, but, once the bit that's lagging catches up, they stop being injury prone.

Obviously, there are some players (e.g. Kirchhoff) who appear to share genetic traits with Quavers.

Injury in youth doesn't mean they're likely to be injury prone when a bit older. Example: Nathan Broadhead looks to be one of those. Up until two seasons ago, he was averaging about 1500 minutes a season on the pitch. His last two seasons have seen him average about a thousand minutes more on the pitch, taking him up to about 2500 (playing 40+ games in both seasons).

Let's hope that Dennis and AJi's issues are behind them and that they can get the first of many solid seasons behind them.
 
Windypants said:
Without wishing to rehash the principles of biomechanics amongst maturing athletes, for some athletes, bones mature faster than muscles, for others, they mature at the same rate and for some, muscle matures faster than bone. There are scientific studies on this. What that means is that the athletes whose bone / muscle maturity is progressing at different speeds, they are more likely to suffer injuries when they're young, but, once the bit that's lagging catches up, they stop being injury prone.

Obviously, there are some players (e.g. Kirchhoff) who appear to share genetic traits with Quavers.

Injury in youth doesn't mean they're likely to be injury prone when a bit older. Example: Nathan Broadhead looks to be one of those. Up until two seasons ago, he was averaging about 1500 minutes a season on the pitch. His last two seasons have seen him average about a thousand minutes more on the pitch, taking him up to about 2500 (playing 40+ games in both seasons).

Let's hope that Dennis and AJi's issues are behind them and that they can get the first of many solid seasons behind them.
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BumbleBee said:
Looks like that is the 3 in midfield as it stands. We still looked a bit vulnerable on the counter attack through the middle. If we bring in a DM one of them misses out and it would be Jobe for me. Unless we go 3 4 3. Or could play Jobe deeper? Thoughts?
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To be fair we looked a little vulnerable in transition because we are playing such a high press...plus, to be fair we were playing against top quality opposition in Marseille. We won't play against that level of quality all season in the league. With that style of play it's very much risk and reward
 
BumbleBee said:
Look at the difference Rodri makes and Kante, Makelele, Essien and tell me a good DCM isn't an important element of a good team.
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I think you've missed the point. Defensively, we're quite good, offensively, we're terrible. Sure, if Sam Morsy or Harry Winks were to turn round and say 'sod this PL nonsense, I wanna go back and play Championship footy with the cool kids at SAFC', it would undoubtedly improve us, but, it wouldn't make us more of a play-off contender ( because we don't score enough). Finding someone (or some way) to score more might make us more of a play-off contender.
 
Windypants said:
I think you've missed the point. Defensively, we're quite good, offensively, we're terrible. Sure, if Sam Morsy or Harry Winks were to turn round and say 'sod this PL nonsense, I wanna go back and play Championship footy with the cool kids at SAFC', it would undoubtedly improve us, but, it wouldn't make us more of a play-off contender ( because we don't score enough). Finding someone (or some way) to score more might make us more of a play-off contender.
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Correct this, we, as hopeless as we were last season had the joint 5th best defence in the league despite injuries to Huggins, Alese and Cirkin most of the season
 
Jambezz said:
Didn’t we have something like the 6th lowest goals conceded?
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We sacrificed our attacking play in the second half of the season. Keeping procession by knocking it around our back line didn’t concede many but it’s shit to watch & we don’t threaten the opposition either.
 
Windypants said:
Last season we were about fifth best in terms of goals conceded and seventh worst in terms of goals scored. You don't need to be a genius to work out which end of the pitch the big problems lie.

I'm not going to go and look at every goal we conceded last season to try and determine whether a DCM would have prevented any, never mind a lot of them. As it's your premise, it's down to you to provide evidence of which goals a DCM would have prevented.
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And yet we finished 17th.

I remember sides last season cutting through the middle of us, if you can't then I'm not going to waste time digging through last seasons goals for you.

A quality DCM would be an excellent addition.
 
Windypants said:
I think you've missed the point. Defensively, we're quite good, offensively, we're terrible. Sure, if Sam Morsy or Harry Winks were to turn round and say 'sod this PL nonsense, I wanna go back and play Championship footy with the cool kids at SAFC', it would undoubtedly improve us, but, it wouldn't make us more of a play-off contender ( because we don't score enough). Finding someone (or some way) to score more might make us more of a play-off contender.
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I don't think so and never said they were mutually exclusive TBF.
 
Windypants said:
. Example: Nathan Broadhead looks to be one of those. Up until two seasons ago, he was averaging about 1500 minutes a season on the pitch. His last two seasons have seen him average about a thousand minutes more on the pitch, taking him up to about 2500 (playing 40+ games in both seasons).

Let's hope that Dennis and AJi's issues are behind them and that they can get the first of many solid seasons behind them.
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Using broadhead as an example suggests that safc are the defining factor, however correlation is not causality
Frankel said:
I’m still not convinced Jobe won’t start up front.

Patto

Hume O9 Alese Cirkin

Neil

Roberts Browne Rigg Clarke

Jobe
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Everything in preseason has suggested Mayenda is going to be given a chance and whilst Ive also suggested this might be how things turn out, it would be down to Mayenda failing not jobe being first choice ahead of him
 
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