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Liam Rosenior

Cjg5x said:
Think there’s a difference In caring and being obsessed really, the fact most of us spend our days talking about the club on here and social media is an obsession.

At the minute of course I care about Sunderland because the club is what runs through my veins and will always be that, but the club in its current guise and those that are the current custodians of it will never truly get that.
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They don't need to get it like we do and tbh they never will.
 

Arfa Sleep said:
But Rosenior would be a yes man, is that right? Just so I know where to stand.
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Time would tell. But we’d get a great initial indication from whether or not he brings his own staff with him, and whether or not the club moves away from the “model” of packing the squad out with cheap inexperienced kids this summer.

If Speakmans mates stay in their posts, and the squad building (dismantling?) carries on in this window as it has for the last three - and the manager says nothing - then yes, he’d be a “yes” man.
 
Cjg5x said:
Think there’s a difference In caring and being obsessed really, the fact most of us spend our days talking about the club on here and social media is an obsession.

At the minute of course I care about Sunderland because the club is what runs through my veins and will always be that, but the club in its current guise and those that are the current custodians of it will never truly get that.
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You’ll still be a supporter long after these charlatans have left the club,you’ve just got to hang in there👍
 
I wouldn’t mind if we did end up going with Rosenior as long as the squad is improved in the areas it so obviously needs to be.

I’m willing to give him a pass on not looking great against us. A lot of teams did last season, we even thumped one of the teams that went up.
 
Jokei84 said:
I wouldn’t mind if we did end up going with Rosenior as long as the squad is improved in the areas it so obviously needs to be.

I’m willing to give him a pass on not looking great against us. A lot of teams did last season, we even thumped one of the teams that went up.
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He didn’t “look great” full stop. He was handed an expensive and star-studded squad at Hull, and still failed to make the top six whilst playing boring football.
 
Rosenior failed at Hull City but people are happy to have him here??
Hull & Rosenior were not constrained by the "model" that he would be under here and in fact they gambled a bit to get promoted but still failed!

What makes people think he would be a success here under the obvious constraints?
 
Jokei84 said:
I wouldn’t mind if we did end up going with Rosenior as long as the squad is improved in the areas it so obviously needs to be.

I’m willing to give him a pass on not looking great against us. A lot of teams did last season, we even thumped one of the teams that went up.
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It’s going to be Rosenior without the high quality signings Hull made last season though. That makes me shudder. His football was dull as dishwater.
 
MurtonMark said:
Time would tell. But we’d get a great initial indication from whether or not he brings his own staff with him, and whether or not the club moves away from the “model” of packing the squad out with cheap inexperienced kids this summer.

If Speakmans mates stay in their posts, and the squad building (dismantling?) carries on in this window as it has for the last three - and the manager says nothing - then yes, he’d be a “yes” man.
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But Mowbray and Neil weren't yes men despite working with Speakman's boys as well because they ultimately left the club. That's cleared up now.
 
Arfa Sleep said:
But Mowbray and Neil weren't yes men despite working with Speakman's boys as well because they ultimately left the club. That's cleared up now.
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I think that criteria made them all yes and no men, right?

It's impossible to be a no-man whilst being at the club. Nice.
 
Clavas said:
Rosenior failed at Hull City but people are happy to have him here??
Hull & Rosenior were not constrained by the "model" that he would be under here and in fact they gambled a bit to get promoted but still failed!

What makes people think he would be a success here under the obvious constraints?
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Is every sacked manager a failure or is it not that simplistic? Would we not take Steve Cooper because he was sacked and a failure?
 
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