dred73
Winger
The word thought brings in a whole new meaning to the story.
Playing from the back, I believe he has it in him to adapt to their kind of play.
He adapted well enough playing out of position as a CF here.
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The Athletic: Brentford want Jobe
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He adapted well enough playing out of position as a CF here.
Perryqhill
Striker
It’s not like palace haven’t signed some absolute dog shit like ya fucker they were ready for the drop until the new manager turned it round
I agree regarding Kobe. I just don’t get it like.
I must have asked 50 times on here, what is he good at and nobody ever replies and the ones that do just point out his age.
I don’t see anything special at the minute at all like
He finds space in the box. Times late runs well and aerially can compete. Seems composed in there compared to most our players.
Done better up front running channels and fighting with defenders at times than all other forwards - not sure how much praise that is though.
Looked lost earlier in the season when dropping into the midfield two then had a couple of half games later in the second where he looked decent.
Scored 7 goals.
Came on after being left out and having a bit of criticism to score a worldy. Showed maybe what he's capable of, but haven't seen it often.
He's 18.
Those are the positives for me, but it's not an allround footballer who you can hang your hat on (and again people will mention he's 18, but he played 45 times starting 42 or 43 IIRC).
He's got some bits to his game but if he wasn't called Bellingham having the relationship with Speakman and Dodds he does he wouldn't have played as often and he wouldn't be getting linked to clubs accross the PL and Europe. The exposure he's getting is due to his brother, not a half reasonable debut season for SAFC.
If he comes back a bit physically quicker and stronger at approaching 19 or even a bit of experience might lead to better decisions and quicker speed of thought then you might be able to look at him and "yes that's what he is and what he can do" but at the moment it's just pie in the sky for me. he's lacking in too many areas to suggest he's going to be a really good or even top footballer.
Looked more like a cf than anything to me. Jude mentioned he is one didn't he and its been mentioned that he played much of his younger career as one.
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If he’s was Jobe Jones and put in the performances he had, no one would give him a second look. Rigg will be 10 tines the player Bellingham wil ever be and he’ll get nowhere near the attention. If we got offered anything over 5m I’d take their hands off.
How big that price is, and thus how much profit, will be telling of the clubs ambitions.
Anything around 10m and it's all a bit shit
Balls Ndong
Full Back
Rigg will be half the player Jobe will be.
Rivet Catcher
Midfield
Has he gone yet?
Mostly players don’t improve from the ages of 17/18 in their first full season in professional football? Aye OK mate
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tbf in the early days of the season he looked good, and then regressed when mowbray left, as did most if not the entire the team, so i'd rather have another look at him under a good manager and make judgements then. No player should be judged on the shite that the owners served us up in the 2nd half of the season, otherwise you'd be getting shot of the lot of them. No player could flourish under those circumstances. You say if he had a different surname nobody would be looking at him, yet if he had a different surname nobody would be singling him out and wanting rid of him. Give him a chance under a solid structure and then see what happens.
Don’t think Olympic sprinters peak at 18 mind. Alan Wells and Linford Christie both won Olympic gold in the 100m aged 28.
Occasionally Jobe can look quick but he rarely chooses to do so.
Depends on what kind of deal we struck up with Birmingham and the Bellinghams themselves.
Did his length of contract get officially released by the club? I think Speakman has seen a way to get some exposure for the club in having a Bellingham sign for the short term. Jobe gets the game time and exposure for bigger clubs to come calling, we get to say we landed a well known young talent and sell him on for a profit.
You say 10m is shite, but if we also sell Clarke for around 20, that's 30m that isn't coming out of KLD's pocket. That could be our budget for the next 2/3 seasons, given on what's been spent in windows so far. Certainly keep us plodding along.
tunstallhill
Striker
He's got potential, but so does every 18 year old..
Currently he's not good enough to be starting every week in a top half championship side, so fuck knows why premier league teams are looking at him. Unless they plan to sign him and never play him
His best bet would be stay here, hopefully improve quickly and play another 45 games next season
Unfortunately I think both him and safc will take the money and his career will disappear
Premier league scouts must be absolutely shite if they've actually watched him play and still think he's worth £10+ million
He's got some great attributes but using them 1 game every 10 needs to change to 9 games every 10... Then we'll have a player on our hands
Currently he's not good enough to be starting every week in a top half championship side, so fuck knows why premier league teams are looking at him. Unless they plan to sign him and never play him
His best bet would be stay here, hopefully improve quickly and play another 45 games next season
Unfortunately I think both him and safc will take the money and his career will disappear
Premier league scouts must be absolutely shite if they've actually watched him play and still think he's worth £10+ million
He's got some great attributes but using them 1 game every 10 needs to change to 9 games every 10... Then we'll have a player on our hands
How can you possibly rate ANYONE based on that season we just went through. Jack Clarke’s supposed to be the next Ronaldo and he did shite all second half of the season.
tunstallhill
Striker
Because I went to nearly every game home and away , and the ones I didn't go to I watched the entire 90mins on the Tele
Therefore I can rate players on their performances I see with my own eyes
The tactics, team selection, formations, style etc... Were all very poor also. Not many players came out of it looking better than they did at the start of the season
I think most people would agree Clarke was poor/quiet after he came back from injury
For what it's worth I think Jobe was one of the few positives of the season, in the sense that he was pretty much the only signing we made that looked capable of playing a bit. But he was anonymous in many, many games.
It's absurd that premier league clubs are looking at him, unless they plan to sign him to stick him in the u21s
BucketBiff
Striker
I have never walked away from the ground after watching him thinking wow that lads amazing. He has had canny games but he hasn’t really ever stood out. Work with a Leeds and Hull fan and both didn’t really see what the fuss was about. His level of performance certainly didn’t warrant the minutes he was given. If we are pinning our hopes on him next season as a no.10 or an advanced mid then we should all be very worried.It’s not like palace haven’t signed some absolute dog shit like ya fucker they were ready for the drop until the new manager turned it round
I agree regarding Kobe. I just don’t get it like.
I must have asked 50 times on here, what is he good at and nobody ever replies and the ones that do just point out his age.
I don’t see anything special at the minute at all like
Realistically, if you believe rumours of the % Birmingham have, if we sell him for 10m it's 'only' 5m profit.
That's not actually a massive amount in the grand scheme of things.
That's more of a 'flipping him for a quick buck' situation than a decent profit
I think he'd probably benefit from the step up tbh.
He'll get better with a better team around him. The obvious gaps in our team has seen him having to shuffle positions, someimes mid-game, which is no good for a lad trying to nail down a role. He'll also gain from not starting every week and having better players around him.
Too much is asked of him here when he's just turned 18. The need to play him every game has increased the pressure on him, and I'd say stuttered his development. I think some of that pressure gets taken away once he's out of limelight. Also, 10m isn't much for a Prem League club who will see that lad as an investment.
That's the first I'd heard of a 50% sell on fee mentioned so I'm not sure.
It'll depend on what kind of deal he's got with us and how long it's for.
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