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Spirit of 37 - display v Newcastle

DonaldDownTheWing said:
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I’m 99% sure part of the deal to allow 6k mags in was the Saudi have sweetened the deal and offered to pay for more than they needed to. But as part of that we need to stop anything anti Saudi

KLD would have seen the opportunity to save a few quid and snapped their hand off. Embarrassing
 

U22 said:
Spineless from the club!
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Sounds pretty concerning that, seemingly, it's either KLD or the marketing bloke who have decided against it. Maybe it's Bruce, thinking it won't look good for sponsors etc. But my worry is that it's KLD. If it is, then that's a major worry for me, given I'm also sure the club could have argued that 6000 is too many if they really wanted to. Feels like we're rolling out the red carpet
 
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use the opportunity to do the best display possible. Plan A has gone. Time to make Plan B the best f***ing display yet. Don't even put a whiff of scum related messaging on there. Forget we're playing them and make it all about us. Fuck the mags and Fuck the pricks at our club making things unnecessarily difficult for all concerned.
 
Nathan Gunn said:
I’m 99% sure part of the deal to allow 6k mags in was the Saudi have sweetened the deal and offered to pay for more than they needed to. But as part of that we need to stop anything anti Saudi

KLD would have seen the opportunity to save a few quid and snapped their hand off. Embarrassing
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The club have absolutely nothing to do with how many Newcastle fans are allowed into the stadium.

"Prior to the semi-final and final, which are played at Wembley, visiting clubs are allowed up to 15 per cent of all tickets for the stadium they are playing at.

That is unless 15 per cent of the stadium exceeds 9,000. So clubs travelling to Old Trafford, the Tottenham Hotspur Stadium, the London Stadium and the Emirates Stadium will have their allocations capped at 9,000, unless the home clubs are willing to offer more. Despite the calculation seeming quite simple, there are still a few stipulations. The visiting club must make a request for the amount of tickets they would like for their fans within four days of the draw. More often than not, teams will request the full 15 per cent but, in some scenarios, they will take fewer tickets than they are allowed. In the instance that not all away tickets are sold by the visiting club, the remaining tickets must be returned to the home club on or (preferably) before the day of the match.

The tickets in the away end are not the only ones that are accessible to the visiting club. They are also entitled to a third of seats usually reserved and known as “home and visiting directors’ seats” up to a maximum of 24 seats.
The disabled facilities must also be separated. The visiting club have the right to claim 15 per cent of those seats as well.

Visiting clubs will not always be guaranteed 15 per cent of the seats throughout the stadium, though. The Safety Advisory Group (SAG) must also agree to the away allocation that has been proposed. The SAG is made up of representatives of services including the police, fire, ambulance and building authority. For fixtures that pose risks to health and safety, they can choose to decrease allocations for visiting clubs.

When the allocation is limited by the home club, it causes plenty of issues, not least with the fans of the visiting club. Allegations of gamesmanship are often thrown around. However, the decision is almost always out of the hands of the home club."
 
moshpit said:
@DonaldDownTheWing
use the opportunity to do the best display possible. Plan A has gone. Time to make Plan B the best f***ing display yet. Don't even put a whiff of scum related messaging on there. Forget we're playing them and make it all about us. Fuck the mags and Fuck the pricks at our club making things unnecessarily difficult for all concerned.
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The display going out should still be cracking like.
 
DonaldDownTheWing said:
Got their wish. It’s reached the point where it’s affecting people’s health so we’re chinning it off.
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Appreciate your efforts. I think if you're packing it in anyway, then cancelling the whole thing with a full disclosure of the reasons why and the hurdles you've needed jump through, would have a bigger impact.

As good as it would be, even just a pro safc display plays into the saudis hands. Hushing up, turning a blind eye was what the original display highlighted so well!
 
DonaldDownTheWing said:
The display going out should still be cracking like.
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I'm sure it will. And there'll be plenty people to help organise it. Keep ya chin up mate. I desperately want to believe the club aren't actively working against you - i mean a 10k donation would suggest the opposite - but yet again, the communication and PR is utterly shambolic and quite frankly unforgivable.
 
DonaldDownTheWing said:
I’ve posted a photo a few pages back mate.
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Cheers. Just seen it. Would have been amazing. As someone who donated and is really pissed off, thanks still for trying, not your fault the people at the top have no backbone. And glad to hear there's still something good coming.

For the anti-sportswashing message, I wonder if we can get an image to go viral that people can print and take themselves to hold up. Like a simple A4 with a pound sign covered in blood.
 
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they've fucked up a lot today but the club aren't wrong here like. as brilliant as it would have been they just can't be associated with providing a platform for that kind of messaging. it's a PR nightmare and could cause allkinds of kickback from sponsors etc

the issue is whichever knacker originally said it was okay and f***ing the lads sorting it about. if that's what happened. as I just can't see how it ever going to be allowed. sounds like someone has made a fuck up (shock) agreeing to it and when it's been ran by the people that actually make the decisions they've obviously said you can't do it

don't blame them one bit for jacking the whole thing in. i assumed it was just the filth trying to wind them up on twitter etc but had a look earlier and the amount of supposed Sunderland fans accusing them of pocketing the donations is lifting

hopefully they go out with a bang with what they can salvage from this
 
Any anti Saudi display would've been embarrassing.

Let's be honest if them lot at Newcastle or City had taken over we'd be over the knot.

You never know if KLD got 100m bid for us from an Arab or whoever he'd be straight out of here!
 
Pacific said:
they've fucked up a lot today but the club aren't wrong here like. as brilliant as it would have been they just can't be associated with providing a platform for that kind of messaging. it's a PR nightmare and could cause allkinds of kickback from sponsors etc

the issue is whichever knacker originally said it was okay and f***ing the lads sorting it about. if that's what happened. as I just can't see how it ever going to be allowed. sounds like someone has made a fuck up (shock) agreeing to it and when it's been ran by the people that actually make the decisions they've obviously said you can't do it

don't blame them one bit for jacking the whole thing in. i assumed it was just the filth trying to wind them up on twitter etc but had a look earlier and the amount of supposed Sunderland fans accusing them of pocketing the donations is lifting

hopefully they go out with a bang with what they can salvage from this
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That kind of messaging?

Banning it is infringing free speech and showing that sports washing is working ffs
 
Pacific said:
they've fucked up a lot today but the club aren't wrong here like. as brilliant as it would have been they just can't be associated with providing a platform for that kind of messaging. it's a PR nightmare and could cause allkinds of kickback from sponsors etc

the issue is whichever knacker originally said it was okay and f***ing the lads sorting it about. if that's what happened. as I just can't see how it ever going to be allowed. sounds like someone has made a fuck up (shock) agreeing to it and when it's been ran by the people that actually make the decisions they've obviously said you can't do it

don't blame them one bit for jacking the whole thing in. i assumed it was just the filth trying to wind them up on twitter etc but had a look earlier and the amount of supposed Sunderland fans accusing them of pocketing the donations is lifting

hopefully they go out with a bang with what they can salvage from this
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That argument is bollocks to be honest. It hasn’t hurt Palace, or the Boro.

The powers that be have sent a very clear message, and it absolutely stinks.
 
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