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Spirit of 37 - display v Newcastle


NorthCountryBoy said:
Sportswashing needs calling out. If we don’t do it on Jan 6th no one ever will. Plus I bet it gets our players going in a different way anyway (‘this is what we are playing against’).
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blood,blood on your hands ,youve got blood on your hands blood,blood......on and on just have thousands singing that over and over..you cannot stop that !
 
samaistonsrightfoot said:
It’s looking like the club have stitched you lot up again if they’ve originally told you you can have a display in the full stadium.

I’d be sending KLD’s 10k back to him and telling him to ram it tbh. It stinks now. Just looks like a payoff.
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It does seem a strange thing to offer (a full lower bowl display) when it wasn’t guaranteed
 
hardtackle said:
According to people on here owners donating to displays is "mag behaviour"

Well show me all the thousands of posts on here before 2021 and I will be proven wrong wont I? Take all the time you need to find them.....
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Don’t really understand posts like this tbh. It’s a football forum. I don’t like the taliban either but you won’t find a post from me on here about them. If they took over Everton or someone there’d be loads of posts about them.

I’ve condoned what’s going on in Israel loads off this board but I’ve not posted owt on here about it as it has no relevance to anything.

For some reason now if you didn’t answer a question in 2000 about who your favourite footballer is with ‘The Saudis are vile’ then for some reason some idiot on the internet seems to think you are pro atrocities.

It’s no different to me searching your posting history, and realising you’ve never condoned the rape and murder of children, and subsequently presuming you are fine with it.

I’m also not certain why anyone, instead of agreeing that the atrocities are terrible, would rather deflect away from them.
 
hardtackle said:
No. You can read can't you? Is that your attempt at getting out of the question I posed.
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It's been asked and answered 100's of times and is an absolute piss poor, cringeworthy response in an effort ro deflect guilt when any Newcastle fan brings it up.

The takeover of our closest rivals and a massive culture influencer in the North East is extremely relevent in people's lives and therefore people educate themselves on the matter. See the Palestine conflict, Qatar World Cup, Russian Invasion of Ukraine etc. as recent examples of people educating themselves in similar circumstances, despite all those having been ongoing issues for years prior.

I know your argument in response is going to be something along the lines of "just jealous" so I'll respond to that whilst I'm at it. If it was fueled by jealousy, or envy, then why didn't SAFC fans respond in a similar fashion to Man City when they became a state owned club by a country with a similar human rights record to that of Saudi Arabia?

Answer; the Man City ownership wasn't relevant to us as Man City holds no relevant importance to most of us, so most people didn't look into it/educate themselves on it. It wasn't effecting our local community, sportswashing propagandists weren't our neighbours, Man City aren't our local rivals and so it wasn't mentioned by them to us at every opportunity.

People educate themselves on what's important to them. The majority of Sunderland fans have educated themselves (and rightly imo, although you obviously disagree based on your posts) are appalled. Likewise, I imagine many Newcastle fans educated themselves on their ownership, and many, like yourself have embraced it with open arms. Strange that you point the finger at said appalled Sunderland fans as they weren't appalled earlier, rather than your own fans embracing such a thing. Can't imagine why, but feel free to tell me.
 
woodlebert said:
It does seem a strange thing to offer (a full lower bowl display) when it wasn’t guaranteed
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Get the impression they’ve been told rhey can have the full bowl but KLD knowing what was coming has given them a payoff to appease them when they drop the bomb.

One thing for sure is you can’t be asking for 45k off people for a full display when it isn’t happening and that’s on the club if they’ve led them to believe it is. It’s not the first time the club has waited till they’ve started collecting money from people to pull the rug either.
 
Get Into Em said:
It's been asked and answered 100's of times and is an absolute piss poor, cringeworthy response in an effort ro deflect guilt when any Newcastle fan brings it up.

The takeover of our closest rivals and a massive culture influencer in the North East is extremely relevent in people's lives and therefore people educate themselves on the matter. See the Palestine conflict, Qatar World Cup, Russian Invasion of Ukraine etc. as recent examples of people educating themselves in similar circumstances, despite all those having been ongoing issues for years prior.

I know your argument in response is going to be something along the lines of "just jealous" so I'll respond to that whilst I'm at it. If it was fueled by jealousy, or envy, then why didn't SAFC fans respond in a similar fashion to Man City when they became a state owned club by a country with a similar human rights record to that of Saudi Arabia?

Answer; the Man City ownership wasn't relevant to us as Man City holds no relevant importance to most of us, so most people didn't look into it/educate themselves on it. It wasn't effecting our local community, sportswashing propagandists weren't our neighbours, Man City aren't our local rivals and so it wasn't mentioned by them to us at every opportunity.

People educate themselves on what's important to them. The majority of Sunderland fans have educated themselves (and rightly imo, although you obviously disagree based on your posts) are appalled. Likewise, I imagine many Newcastle fans educated themselves on their ownership, and many, like yourself have embraced it with open arms. Strange that you point the finger at said appalled Sunderland fans as they weren't appalled earlier, rather than your own fans embracing such a thing. Can't imagine why, but feel free to tell me.
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Hes never ever going to reply to this, absolutely destroyed him with this 🫡 brilliant post
 
Get Into Em said:
It's been asked and answered 100's of times and is an absolute piss poor, cringeworthy response in an effort ro deflect guilt when any Newcastle fan brings it up.

The takeover of our closest rivals and a massive culture influencer in the North East is extremely relevent in people's lives and therefore people educate themselves on the matter. See the Palestine conflict, Qatar World Cup, Russian Invasion of Ukraine etc. as recent examples of people educating themselves in similar circumstances, despite all those having been ongoing issues for years prior.

I know your argument in response is going to be something along the lines of "just jealous" so I'll respond to that whilst I'm at it. If it was fueled by jealousy, or envy, then why didn't SAFC fans respond in a similar fashion to Man City when they became a state owned club by a country with a similar human rights record to that of Saudi Arabia?

Answer; the Man City ownership wasn't relevant to us as Man City holds no relevant importance to most of us, so most people didn't look into it/educate themselves on it. It wasn't effecting our local community, sportswashing propagandists weren't our neighbours, Man City aren't our local rivals and so it wasn't mentioned by them to us at every opportunity.

People educate themselves on what's important to them. The majority of Sunderland fans have educated themselves (and rightly imo, although you obviously disagree based on your posts) are appalled. Likewise, I imagine many Newcastle fans educated themselves on their ownership, and many, like yourself have embraced it with open arms. Strange that you point the finger at said appalled Sunderland fans as they weren't appalled earlier, rather than your own fans embracing such a thing. Can't imagine why, but feel free to tell me.
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👏🏻 👏🏻 👏🏻
 
I can't be the only person to think there is a risk the owners one day decide, "Oh, why don't we play this game back home and take our club and the players who are tied to the club (not the city) with us"? It happened with the Oakland Raiders...

That risk (however small it may or may not be) would never be worth the investment and potential "success" that brings.
 
Qwerty said:
Giving the 10k back to KLD isn't really viable.
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It’s quite frankly a barmy suggestion really. Some people just say things without thinking about them at times (me included).

What are we supposed to do? Give him his money back, say “no thanks. We won’t want your money because of something that has only been rumoured on a message board”.

Then what? No display? We have to sort through every individual donor, contact them, get their bank details, refund the money etc etc?
 
Jonny124317 said:
I can't be the only person to think there is a risk the owners one day decide, "Oh, why don't we play this game back home and take our club and the players who are tied to the club (not the city) with us"? It happened with the Oakland Raiders...

That risk (however small it may or may not be) would never be worth the investment and potential "success" that brings.
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It wouldn't be beneficial in any metric for them to do that.

I can see 'clubs' changing their location when the inevitable Super League becomes a reality though. That's when those clubs will be Franchises like their American counterparts, and everything (including location) will be taken into account regarding profitability. Will two franchises want to share the city of Manchester, for example? Will 6 franchises want to be located in the UK if there's no franchises in Germany? etc.
 
DonaldDownTheWing said:
It’s quite frankly a barmy suggestion really. Some people just say things without thinking about them at times (me included).

What are we supposed to do? Give him his money back, say “no thanks. We won’t want your money because of something that has only been rumoured on a message board”.

Then what? No display? We have to sort through every individual donor, contact them, get their bank details, refund the money etc etc?
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So we can only have a display if our owners pay for one?
 
DonaldDownTheWing said:
It’s quite frankly a barmy suggestion really. Some people just say things without thinking about them at times (me included).

What are we supposed to do? Give him his money back, say “no thanks. We won’t want your money because of something that has only been rumoured on a message board”.

Then what? No display? We have to sort through every individual donor, contact them, get their bank details, refund the money etc etc?
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i guess the only way to do it, if you were serious about the suggestion, would be to put in the blurb the next time a fundraiser comes round 'we will not accept donations from board members of SAFC'
 
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