Must be bored
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The nuance being he was 20 meters away from the ref and walking back into his position in the middle of the pitch for the goal kick but the ref ref was such an arrogant prick he thought it was all about him?
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Because it wasn’t a red card offensive
Blue Bell Lad
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Are you an Antipodean tosspot kangaroo botherer by any chance?
See the usuals are still digging in
Absolutely bizarre behaviour how anyone can even try and defend the ref’s incompetence yesterday?!
You on about the mags??
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ron
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So why was the Boro keeper given a free kick any time a SAFC player went near him yet Patterson got no protection at all
ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK
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The 3rd player thing
It's the fact that Lemina and Dias both cover distance to bitch at the ref that got them the yellows and rightly so in my opinion as it needs stamping out of the game
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That's the reason why the dissent rule was tightened this season to be more specific about players coming in from distance 'protesting' about a decision. Our lads didn't get booked yesterday as O'Nien kept pushing them away and O'Nien was being very civilised with the ref and only Ballard was possibly being a bit heated.
It's the inconsistency that is the problem as they either need to start booking all dissent or none at all, rather than the ref picking and choosing who to book. This is why I'd never backchat or say owt to a ref as I think it just puts you in his mind and I think you run the risk that he can give a free kick, card etc against you. Personally I think it's pointless constantly going at the ref because if I was a ref then I would be less inclined to 'reward' tantrums. The same goes for the crowd giving grief to a ref, do fans really think he's gonna think that "Awww, they're being nice to me so the next 50/50 I'll give it in their favour"?
They should both be sent off for saying Howay
hank williams
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Father Jack Hackett
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That is a f***ing disgrace. That prick should never ref another game, not even a bairns’ one
cook
Striker
Just watched the 1st half back, don't need the 2nd.
No complaints with the red for me. Players have been warned about it plenty. Inconsistency yes, but that's on Dan Neil to not get involved when already on a yellow.
Lack of yellow cards to Boro for persistent fouls and pull backs when we're away is the most frustrating thing for me. If they get an early yellow you end up with them being in a similar position to Dan Neil, on a tightrope the rest of the game.
Finally the elbow into Ballard. Between 4 of them, how none of the officials don't see that as dangerous and worthy of a red card is beyond me. He's just lucky his elbow didn't connect better otherwise we'd probably be without Ballard through injury.
Inconsistent - Yes
A concern that he is deemed good enough to be a Premier League / European competition referee? Absolutely.
The club could raise it with the league, FA etc, but it wouldn't do anything. Never does. Even if they admit the errors, they get put in charge of a league below for someone else to suffer or get a week off. Pointless.
A thoroughly disappointing result after plenty of promise in the 1st half.
No complaints with the red for me. Players have been warned about it plenty. Inconsistency yes, but that's on Dan Neil to not get involved when already on a yellow.
Lack of yellow cards to Boro for persistent fouls and pull backs when we're away is the most frustrating thing for me. If they get an early yellow you end up with them being in a similar position to Dan Neil, on a tightrope the rest of the game.
Finally the elbow into Ballard. Between 4 of them, how none of the officials don't see that as dangerous and worthy of a red card is beyond me. He's just lucky his elbow didn't connect better otherwise we'd probably be without Ballard through injury.
Inconsistent - Yes
A concern that he is deemed good enough to be a Premier League / European competition referee? Absolutely.
The club could raise it with the league, FA etc, but it wouldn't do anything. Never does. Even if they admit the errors, they get put in charge of a league below for someone else to suffer or get a week off. Pointless.
A thoroughly disappointing result after plenty of promise in the 1st half.
Mowgli
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@redandwhiterob would and has argued defending officials when they've looked at a var image and still got the decision wrong.
Honestly wasting your time. At least @Voice of fair play has the sense and realism to call the officials out when they get certain stuff wrong. Like on var replays, but Rob will always defend. Unless it's a boxing ref and he's allowed to call them corrupt.
Honestly wasting your time. At least @Voice of fair play has the sense and realism to call the officials out when they get certain stuff wrong. Like on var replays, but Rob will always defend. Unless it's a boxing ref and he's allowed to call them corrupt.
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So it's understandable for you to get frustrated because of the persistent and blatant fouling, but when a red & white player to the core gets frustrated, it's unacceptable?
Father Jack Hackett
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So, Greenwood on a yellow goes in studs up, doesn’t make contact but would have been nasty if he had, exactly the same as Neil’s but Referee only gives a free kick, admitting it’s a foul but no yellow? That is every bit as daft as Neil saying something when in a yellow (in fact, far more so).
That isn’t just inconsistency, it’s entirely wrong.
Houghtoner
Winger
Irrespective of the red, the fact that he didn’t book whoever it was who grabbed onto Clarke when he waved play on was absolutely ridiculous. The ball didn’t go out for a while after but that was a massive mistake.
Smartie
Winger
I have slept on this and I’m still fuming. Forgetting all the other stuff that went on, in the context of the game, I think we can see the sending off as, at the very least, harsh. The Boro fans must have been delighted.
On a side note, is Luke O’Nein’s shithousery beginning to worry anyone else? He takes an awful lot of risks. He seems to get away with a lot. It’s only a matter of time before he gets a red imo.
On a side note, is Luke O’Nein’s shithousery beginning to worry anyone else? He takes an awful lot of risks. He seems to get away with a lot. It’s only a matter of time before he gets a red imo.
I think 09 knows exactly what’s he doing and what he can get away with. Hopefully some of the other players can become a bit more “street wise”
Too many teams are coming up here and getting away stuff / doing a job on us.
cook
Striker
I'm not on the pitch, I'm not a professional footballer.
Dan Neil is.
And before anyone says otherwise, Dan Neil has been one of our best players this season. The work he's does on and off the ball has been very good. But in my eyes he gave the ref an excuse yesterday.
It really shouldn’t but I’m still absolutely livid and in foul mood because of it. You’d think I’d
know better and not let a ref or Sunlun to spoil my weekend at nearly 40!
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one footed wonder
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He got every major decision in the game wrong which is some going.
if he is going to issue yellow cards for dissent then he needs to do it consistently, both teams were in the refs ear and challenging decisions from the off, he only issued cards to our players.
He gave yellows for lesser fouls than the greenwood one on seelt, it’s a yellow all day and it’s 10 men a side at 0-0.
Completely not paying attention at half time when coburn firstly elbows Ballard then leads with his head……carrick knew it as well hence him being on the pitch and getting him out of the way asap.
The inconsistency and incompetence is simply staggering.
All that said I also think Mowbray dropped the ball tactically in terms of how we set up second half
if he is going to issue yellow cards for dissent then he needs to do it consistently, both teams were in the refs ear and challenging decisions from the off, he only issued cards to our players.
He gave yellows for lesser fouls than the greenwood one on seelt, it’s a yellow all day and it’s 10 men a side at 0-0.
Completely not paying attention at half time when coburn firstly elbows Ballard then leads with his head……carrick knew it as well hence him being on the pitch and getting him out of the way asap.
The inconsistency and incompetence is simply staggering.
All that said I also think Mowbray dropped the ball tactically in terms of how we set up second half
cook
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Inconsistent, incompetent. Various terms you could use. The ref set the tone for his game in the 1st half.
Like I said though, he's a Premier League referee, therefore supposedly one of the best in the country.
For me that is a worry for the game as a whole, not just us.
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