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Just watched this video on the two 'Supposed' alien bodies. It looks too good to be true, but they have put forward scientific evidence which raises many questions? I don't know of the credibility of the scientists, their work and the details of the research? Hmmm? not sure on this one?

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The scientific community need to be all over this with peer review, to either confirm or disprove the claims and evidence? And if it is a hoax, a lot has been put into it?
 
tunstall birdman said:
Just watched this video on the two 'Supposed' alien bodies. It looks too good to be true, but they have put forward scientific evidence which raises many questions? I don't know of the credibility of the scientists, their work and the details of the research? Hmmm? not sure on this one?

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The scientific community need to be all over this with peer review, to either confirm or disprove the claims and evidence? And if it is a hoax, a lot has been put into it?
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That Maussan fella has a VERY shady history. I’d be hugely surprised if this leads to anything.
 
Will just be someone from the area from that time won’t it? South America is rife with mental mummies being found.

It will end up being something like this in the end..

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Jgrainger said:
Will just be someone from the area from that time won’t it? South America is rife with mental mummies being found.

It will end up being something like this in the end..

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Yeah, that's why there needs to be scientific peer review and independent testing and analysis from the best world scientists.
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I'm expecting 'Marsh gas bouncing off weather balloons'. ;) There'll be nothing but the usual whitewashing of any credible evidence and being 'Project Blue Book PT 2'.
 
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tunstall birdman said:
Yeah, that's why there needs to be scientific peer review and independent testing and analysis from the best world scientists.

I'm expecting 'Marsh gas bouncing off weather balloons'. ;) There'll be nothing but the usual whitewashing of any credible evidence and being 'Project Blue Book PT 2'.
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I'm going for something like there are some sightings that can't readily be explained but that's not to say they are coming from another planet or elsewhere.
 
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We can dispute the evidence all we like but something is clearly going on.

We have had several decades of outright denials from governments across the planet and them going to extreme lengths to keep it quiet. We've all grown up with this steady state of the UFO narritive.

Now we have US government officials testifying under oath to other US government officials live on TV that there are non human things flying in our skies and dead alien bodies.

So we can debate the presented evidence as much as we like but there has been an absolutely massive step change in the narrative in the last few years starting from the release of the airforce tictac video's.

So the only question that matters is why.

This is exactly what you'd expect if its had been agreed by whoever in power to tell the world via gradual disclosure and of course that would be earth shattering if true.

But almost as interesting is, if it isnt that what the hell are they upto.
 
The Krankie Returns said:
They exist. Saw a doco series on it on YouTube. Apparently they come to Earth in flying saucers with amazing regularity. There is a secret organisation called Supreme Headquarters Alien Defence Organisation which monitors the UFOs and takes action when they can. They even have a secret base on the moon and all sorts of clever stuff.
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The Moon is actually a hollow, artificial satellite which monitors us, apparently.

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Thurston said:
The Moon is actually a hollow, artificial satellite which monitors us, apparently.

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To be fair to Why Files, he presents the stories really well and does a great job of debunking them all at the end, although the fish can be bloody annoying.
The recent Cicada 3301 video was really interesting as I never knew how that concluded.
 
MunkyHeed said:
To be fair to Why Files, he presents the stories really well and does a great job of debunking them all at the end, although the fish can be bloody annoying.
The recent Cicada 3301 video was really interesting as I never knew how that concluded.
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Discovered the why files a few months back, watched the lot. He is open to new ideas and evidence and will pull anything apart if he can.
 
tunstall birdman said:
Just watched this video on the two 'Supposed' alien bodies. It looks too good to be true, but they have put forward scientific evidence which raises many questions? I don't know of the credibility of the scientists, their work and the details of the research? Hmmm? not sure on this one?

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The scientific community need to be all over this with peer review, to either confirm or disprove the claims and evidence? And if it is a hoax, a lot has been put into it?
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I’ve been watching stuff on that whistleblower David Grusch. Seems a credible bloke.
 
Zidane said:
We can dispute the evidence all we like but something is clearly going on.

We have had several decades of outright denials from governments across the planet and them going to extreme lengths to keep it quiet. We've all grown up with this steady state of the UFO narritive.

Now we have US government officials testifying under oath to other US government officials live on TV that there are non human things flying in our skies and dead alien bodies.

So we can debate the presented evidence as much as we like but there has been an absolutely massive step change in the narrative in the last few years starting from the release of the airforce tictac video's.

So the only question that matters is why.

This is exactly what you'd expect if its had been agreed by whoever in power to tell the world via gradual disclosure and of course that would be earth shattering if true.

But almost as interesting is, if it isnt that what the hell are they upto.
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If a lot of this has been kept secret by the military industrial complex, they have a problem now the government are providing ways for people to come forward who have worked as part of it who want to disclose.

There was a fascinating post on Reddit about a molecular biologist who had claimed to work on the biology of a recovered body.

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Worth a read whatever view you have on the whole are aliens real or not debate
Flea Market Trader said:
I’ve been watching stuff on that whistleblower David Grusch. Seems a credible bloke.
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You may have already seen this but worth a watch if not

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Kent_Mackem said:
I'm astounded the conversation is still going.

Surely if any rational person sits down to think about the combinations of unimaginably difficult barriers that ALL need to be surpassed for any alien contact on this planet to be even possible, let alone happened, then it becomes obvious that the conversation is pointless.

At least ALL of these things need to be true:

Life must exist elsewhere (possible, maybe it does / maybe it doesn't - we know it doesn't exist on several planets and it almost certainly can't exist on billions of others)​
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Any such life must also have reached a state of self-awareness (possible, but almost all of the life that has ever lived on this planet is/was not)​
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The life forms must also have reached a level of intelligence to understand the concept of planets, stars and galaxies (possible, but in the 3.7 billion years that life has existed it was only in the last few hundred years that we understood this)​
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The life forms must also NOT have reached a point of self-destruction (based on our own experience this seems unlikely. We haven't been around long and we surely have less time left)​
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The life forms must also live within a radius of only 130, one hundred and thirty, light years in order to have detected us by radio signals (vanishingly, staggeringly, utterly unlikely. Of all the billions of light years of range in the universe, and we only "know" about the observable universe, for the life forms to exist in that tiny back garden radius from Earth is just unimaginable.)​
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The life forms must also have detected us (maybe)​
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The life forms must also have understood that radio waves meant other life forms, and have been able to trace the origin (maybe)​
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The life forms must also have wanted to get here (would you?)​
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The life forms must also have been able to get here within 137 years (max) which means travelling at the speed of light or faster (as far as we know this is impossible, so this should rule it out as a silly idea immediately)​


Having done all that... and there are probably loads more conditions that need to all be true.... we are still then being asked to believe that they have arrived, undetected from all of our SETI instruments and the paranoid early warning detection systems, and have only been picked up and are known about by people who sit in their underpants watching YouTube videos.

Give your heads a shake man! Keep watching Independence Day, playing your Space Invaders games... but stick your "evidence" up your pipes. :)
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Wormholes
 
MunkyHeed said:
To be fair to Why Files, he presents the stories really well and does a great job of debunking them all at the end, although the fish can be bloody annoying.
The recent Cicada 3301 video was really interesting as I never knew how that concluded.
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He’s a good presenter. Playing the sceptic who wants to believe, but is open to evidence and logic is the perfect approach for covering all sides of Youtube. Personally I quite like the fish. :lol:
 
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