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Our T20 bowling tactics . Been on my mind all night

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Ghfd

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I think we have some decent tactics this season and some banker bowlers

I feel Sowter, Raine and Parnell can cover 12 in most of the matches

now the other 8

trev on a given night could get 4, but just for this I’m giving him 2

I think turner was under bowled last night so I’m giving him 2 as well

that leaves 4 between de leede and I’ve been told doneathy can bowl but weve not seen it yet

de leede did take wickets in the wins, so he could on a given pitch take 3

what do you reckon ?
 

Ghfd said:
I think we have some decent tactics this season and some banker bowlers

I feel Sowter, Raine and Parnell can cover 12 in most of the matches

now the other 8

trev on a given night could get 4, but just for this I’m giving him 2

I think turner was under bowled last night so I’m giving him 2 as well

that leaves 4 between de leede and I’ve been told doneathy can bowl but weve not seen it yet

de leede did take wickets in the wins, so he could on a given pitch take 3

what do you reckon ?
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First time I remember seeing de Leede last night but I wasn't impressed with bat or ball, hopefully he's better than that.

Ideally I'd have Potts, Wood, Carse and maybe Coughlin ahead of him ;) Think we're down to the bare bones a bit, but with that many players unavailable I think I'd rather we were giving that game time to one of our kids.
 
mikemanc said:
First time I remember seeing de Leede last night but I wasn't impressed with bat or ball, hopefully he's better than that.

Ideally I'd have Potts, Wood, Carse and maybe Coughlin ahead of him ;) Think we're down to the bare bones a bit, but with that many players unavailable I think I'd rather we were giving that game time to one of our kids.
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They have plenty of options just they are unproven or showed little drissel, Gibson,mcclindon
 
chopsfc007 said:
Think that's a bit harsh at least at the moment
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I'm not basing that on his performance, if we're bringing in Sowter and Parnell then I'd rather our last quick was someone at the club developing. Guess we're looking at the 50 over tournament to do that but that looks more like a glorified seconds cup these days, I think T20 would be a better proving ground.
 
mikemanc said:
I'm not basing that on his performance, if we're bringing in Sowter and Parnell then I'd rather our last quick was someone at the club developing. Guess we're looking at the 50 over tournament to do that but that looks more like a glorified seconds cup these days, I think T20 would be a better proving ground.
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It's also quicker to break someones confidence there obviously arent people ready to play
 
mikemanc said:
I'm not basing that on his performance, if we're bringing in Sowter and Parnell then I'd rather our last quick was someone at the club developing. Guess we're looking at the 50 over tournament to do that but that looks more like a glorified seconds cup these days, I think T20 would be a better proving ground.
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given the money we've seemingly put in, it seems like we're taking this very seriously.

doneathy seems an odd call but he did perform really well in the 50 over run to the final so i'm quite happy to see him given another chance and as you say, use the 50 over to get youngsters more used to game pressure.

bas has had a few decent performances so far, i'm quite ok with him getting a shot at t20 and see what we have in him
 
As I said I’m happy with Sowter, raine and Parnell taking the 12

I think we have plenty of options for the other 8
 
chopsfc007 said:
Reckon wood will play to gain fitness or England tell us to leave him out
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Would like to think he could play a couple but very much doubt England will allow it

such a shame Potts and Carse are unavailable as well. Add those two and take doneathy and de leede out, that would be a canny attack with Sowter, raine and Parnell, with turner and trev as bonus depending on the pitch
 
mikemanc said:
First time I remember seeing de Leede last night but I wasn't impressed with bat or ball, hopefully he's better than that.

Ideally I'd have Potts, Wood, Carse and maybe Coughlin ahead of him ;) Think we're down to the bare bones a bit, but with that many players unavailable I think I'd rather we were giving that game time to one of our kids.
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Looked good with the bat in the championship and started well against Northamptonshire in blast but hasn't been as good since.

He's off to Zimbabwe for the world cup qualifier I'd imagine after the Leicestershire blast game. As Netherlands first game is the 20th June.

So were going to have to change it up, for 2 potentially 3 championship games and 6 blast games.
 
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i know he kind of pulled it back in that over, but De leede had been carted all over in his previous so shouldnt have bowled at the death
 
Sillypoint said:
i know he kind of pulled it back in that over, but De leede had been carted all over in his previous so shouldnt have bowled at the death
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They had turner as an alternative option. Maybe lees thought to back de leede to help his confidence ?

be interesting to see the next game how we rotate
 
Twisted said:
bas has had a few decent performances so far, i'm quite ok with him getting a shot at t20 and see what we have in him
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From what I’ve seen of Bas, that was his worst performance this season. Campbell obviously knows him very well so is aware of his capabilities. I trust his judgement.
 
Coggers and Carse are the big miss. At the moment don’t think you can count on De Leede for 4 overs excellent v Northants but very poor other2 games.

Guilty of short, wide a down the leg side. But surely anybody is a better option than Doneathy batting at 7 and bowling is a bit pointless really.

If your relying on 7 for the runs you have already lost and not bowled a ball.
 
mosi said:
From what I’ve seen of Bas, that was his worst performance this season. Campbell obviously knows him very well so is aware of his capabilities. I trust his judgement.
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Last night was certainly a shocker from BdL. I watched the Yorks game and our two flying Dutchmen bowled the first 5 overs of the power play and got carted everywhere, then Ben Raine came on for the 6th over and went for 2 runs. I didn't see any of the Northants game, so can't comment. BdL seemed to bowl the same ball all night, last night, with the only variation being the ones he speared down the leg side for wides.

In fairness, I've only watched him bowl in the PP or at the death when the batsmen are looking to score quickly, but that's kind of why he's in the side. Starting the Notts innings with 2 wides in his first 2 balls doesn't help matters. Once upon a time we had Matty P and he regularly seemed to take wickets in the opening over, putting immediate pressure on the batting side. I've seen us bowl Trev first up in the past without too much damage, but the idea of using a spinner for over 1 seems to have largely had its day

I feel a little sorry for Trev in that Sowter and Raine are bowling those middle overs where we build pressure and so he's forced to bowl at parts of the game where he's more likely to be on a hiding to nothing, but I like him as a T20 bowler and think we should back him.

I agree completely that we should be looking to get 2 overs out of Turner. I'm also wondering whether we should be holding him back for that late order batting surge. If we are going to play BdL, and I rather think we might, then we need to make sure he bowls one over spells at varying points in the innings in the hope that the batters don't line him up and I don't think we should be playing both him and Glover. I'd bat him ahead of Turner if we lose early wickets so that he can play the strike rotating role for whoever remains of our bigger hitting top 4 and hold Turner back for the last 5 overs

And why isn't McKinney playing.... have I missed something?
 
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Durham-Mackem41 said:
Coggers and Carse are the big miss. At the moment don’t think you can count on De Leede for 4 overs excellent v Northants but very poor other2 games.

Guilty of short, wide a down the leg side. But surely anybody is a better option than Doneathy batting at 7 and bowling is a bit pointless really.

If your relying on 7 for the runs you have already lost and not bowled a ball.
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Carse is a double miss as his batting was a revelation in the Championship this season. The six he hit over the roof of the gym when he scored his ton was astonishing.

Agree about Doneathy as his inclusion in the team is a complete mystery as he's done nothing of note for the 2nds.
 
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